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Re: query: conversion of 16mm film to video



ARRGH!  I KNEW I'd get caught on that wet-gate thing!  Thanks for
straightening me out, Jim!

-Paul

Paul J. Eisloeffel
Curator of Manuscripts and Audio-Visual Collections
Nebraska State Historical Society
P.O. Box 82554
Lincoln, NE 68501
(402) 471-4750
Fax: (402) 471-8922
E-mail: pje@inebraska.com
           pje@nebraskahistory.org
www.nebraskahistory.org

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Lindner" <jim@VIDIPAX.COM>
To: <ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 12:46 PM
Subject: Re: query: conversion of 16mm film to video


> VidiPax provides these services on a Rank Cintel as Paul mentions. We do
not
> use a Wet Gate for many reasons - there are VERY few places that use them
> any more. We have supplied these services to many on this list - please
> contact us off list for more info.
>
> jim
>
> Jim Lindner - President
> VidiPax - The Magnetic Media and Information Migration Full Services
Company
> Telephone 212-563-1999
> www.vidipax.com
> Moderator of A/V Media Matters@topica.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Archives & Archivists [mailto:ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU]On
> > Behalf Of Paul Eisloeffel
> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 12:59 PM
> > To: ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
> > Subject: Re: query: conversion of 16mm film to video
> >
> >
> > Hi Bridgett,
> >
> > What you've got are home movies from very early years of the medium
(16mm
> > was introduced to the public by Eastman Kodak in 1923).  They are on
> > "reversal" film (no negative in the process) and likely on a di-acetate
> > base.  That smell you notice is probably "Vinegar Syndrome" (or acid
> > hydrolysis), which means it's slowly eating itself away.  There
> > are probably
> > other associated problems with the film as well, such as shrinking and
> > warping.  You can arrest the degradation with cold storage (25-03
> > degrees F
> > and 35-45% RH), but you can't cure it.  The only way to really give the
> > images a fighting chance is to have a reputable lab make a dupe
> > negative on
> > modern 16mm polyester filmstock (which then becomes the "preservation
> > master") and a new positive "answer print," also on polyester stock,
which
> > becomes the "use" copy.   A video transfer from that new positive can
then
> > be made (VHS is fine, but you should also consider Digital Beta,
> > the latest
> > broadcast industry standard).
> >
> > Now, nothing's preventing you from making the video copy off the
original
> > first and waiting on the other preservation work,  although the film
WILL
> > GET WORSE if not put in cold storage.  If you have a useable
> > video copy, you
> > can sometimes more easily excite potential funders about ponying
> > up the cash
> > for the full-blown preservation.  Also, check the website of the
National
> > Film Preservation Foundation (www.filmpreservation.org) -- they
> > give grants
> > for just such preservation work, if they feel the images merit it.  In
any
> > case, send the film to a reputable lab well versed in dealing
> > with archival
> > footage -- and make sure they use a Rank-Cintel wet-gate system
> > for transfer
> > (this is extremely kind on old film).  There are several such labs
around
> > the country, but I'm not sure about Ohio (although when it comes
> > down to it,
> > it really doesn't matter how far away it is!).  You might want to revise
> > your request and post it on the Association of Moving Image Archivists
> > listserv (submit the message to AMIA-L@LSV.UKY.EDU and make sure you ask
> > them to reply directly to you, since you won't be subscribed) to see if
> > anyone in your area has suggestions for a lab they trust.  I'll be glad
to
> > suggest a few if you want to give me a call.  Good luck!
> >
> > -Paul
> >
> > Paul J. Eisloeffel
> > Curator of Manuscripts and Audio-Visual Collections
> > Nebraska State Historical Society
> > P.O. Box 82554
> > Lincoln, NE 68501
> > (402) 471-4750
> > Fax: (402) 471-8922
> > E-mail: pje@inebraska.com
> >            pje@nebraskahistory.org
> > www.nebraskahistory.org
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bridgette Kelly" <BKelly@STANHYWET.ORG>
> > To: <ARCHIVES@LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
> > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2000 10:53 AM
> > Subject: query: conversion of 16mm film to video
> >
> >
> > > Hi all!
> > >
> > > I have been assigned the task of having 16mm home movies on safety
film
> > from
> > > the mid-1920's to 1930's, converted to some type of VHS format. Could
> > anyone
> > > recommend a company in northeast OH that could do this for a
reasonable
> > fee?
> > >
> > >
> > > Also, is there a particular format that is better than another?
> > I seem to
> > > remember from making a documentary in school that the head of the
media
> > lab
> > > preferred SVHS over VHS because of the better quality. I'm not
> > sure of the
> > > differences.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know if it is cheaper to have a copy onto 16mm film when
> > having
> > > this other work done, rather than going back later to have a 16mm copy
> > made
> > > for preservation? The film is just starting to get a smell to it
(kinda
> > hard
> > > to tell if it's just musty or not) and at first glance appears to be
in
> > > great shape. I'd hate to wait and not be able to get a clear copy to
> > > preserve. Right now, though, the 'powers that be' are more concerned
at
> > > having an accessible copy (we don't have a 16mm projector). I'm
> > hoping to
> > be
> > > able to talk them into a 16mm copy by using the $$ aspect.
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance for your help with my many questions! Feel free
to
> > > reply off-list or to forward this request to people who might help.
> > >
> > > Bridgette
> > >
> > > Bridgette A. Kelly, Special Collections Manager
> > > Stan Hywet Hall & Gardens
> > > 714 N. Portage Path
> > > Akron, OH 44303
> > > phone: 330-836-5533 ext. 132    fax: 330-836-2680
> > > BKelly@stanhywet.org
> > > www.stanhywet.org
> > >
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