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Re: TITANIC movie wierdness



No problem, Kevin, its a very interesting discussion.  I just happened to
be in the postal museum last week and saw the Titanic exhibit --
fascinating stuff and a strange coincidence.  Best, Lee

At 01:28 PM 7/3/00 -0700, you wrote:
Thanks, Lee -- and yes, I was trying to point out that the sacks were
incorrectly stenciled. Of course they belonged in the setting! btw, I'll
have to learn to make my statements more intelligable.

Kevin Bunker
Student Assistant
California State Archives

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> >Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2000 11:34:07 -0700
> >From: "Bunker, Kevin" <kbunker@SS.CA.GOV>
> >Subject: Re: History and the Movies
>
> >Ah, yes, TITANIC..."small potatoes" this may be, but did anyone else
> notice
> >the early scene alongside the great ship prior to her voyage...hordes of
> >people moving towards here, gawking. And there, in the foreground, as the
> >mails were being loaded aboard sat huge mail sacks, half properly (I
> hope)
> >marked "ROYAL MAIL" with the crown's crest above, and the American mail?
> >Marked "Property of the United States Postal Service." [Small twinge].
> James
> >Cameron and the public probably didn't notice or give a whit...
> >
> >At least the sacks didn't have the "speeding pullet" eagle or the phrase,
> >"We Deliver for You."
> >
> >Kevin Bunker
> >Student Assistant
> >California State Archives
>
> I hope I'm not misinterpreting Kevin Bunker's posting here -- I'm assuming
> he's bothered by the U.S. mail sacks on the dock.  Fact is, the RMS
> Titanic
> (RMS=Royal Mail Ship) did carry U.S. mail and none of the three U.S. Sea
> Post Clerks assigned to the Titanic survived it's sinking.  See the web
> page for the exhibit at the U.S. Postal Museum:
> http://www.si.edu/postal/titanic/titanic.html
>
> Please do not mistake this as a defense of the historical accuracy of
> Titanic or "historical" movies in general.  While I'm sure there are
> conscientious and considerate researchers for films, TV, etc., the
> outpouring of negative experiences we've seen on this thread seems pretty
> compelling to me.
>
> We too have been the victims of "deadlineitis" -- the TV sports folks who
> called one of our staff at home on New Year's eve for footage of a
> previous
> bowl game for the next day.  Don't even ask me about the one who wanted us
> to fax the videotape to them -- presumably they had a long roll of paper
> at
> their end!
>
> While these folks can be "problem patrons" of the first water, I have to
> agree with Richard Cox that most people in the audience don't recognize
> these films and TV shows as "fiction" or see the nuances that some of the
> posters on this theme have suggested.  They believe this stuff; especially
> when they read all the puffery in the media about the "historical
> accuracy"
> of these works.  That is a phenomenon worthy of study in and of
> itself.   Braveheart, for all its errors, apparently had an impact on
> Scottish public opinion and influenced the vote for greater autonomy for
> Scotland, which has resulted in the establishment of the first Scottish
> Parliament in over 300 years.
>
> Lee Stout
> Penn State Univ. Archivist
>
>
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