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by Stirling Bartholomew
May 18th, 2019, 1:14 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: χωρὶς τοῦ + infinitive
Replies: 1
Views: 53

χωρὶς τοῦ + infinitive

Athanasius Incarnation § 51.4 Πάλαι μὲν γὰρ εἰδωλολατροῦντες, Ἕλληνες καὶ βάρβαροι κατ' ἀλλήλων ἐπολέμουν, καὶ ὠμοὶ πρὸς τοὺς συγγενεῖς ἐτύγχανον. Οὐκ ἦν γάρ τινα τὸ σύνολον οὔτε τὴν γῆν οὔτε τὴν θάλασσαν διαβῆναι χωρὶς τοῦ τὴν χεῖρα ξίφεσιν ὁπλίσαι , ἕνεκα τῆς πρὸς ἀλλήλους ἀκαταλλάκτου μάχης. § 5...
by Stirling Bartholomew
May 14th, 2019, 9:10 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: ὁ τοῦ θεοῦ λόγος in NT?
Replies: 0
Views: 77

ὁ τοῦ θεοῦ λόγος in NT?

Why don't we find ὁ τοῦ θεοῦ λόγος in NT? Doesn't seem to be a syntax issue. Peter has: τὸ τοῦ θεοῦ πνεῦμα 1Pet. 4:14 εἰ ὀνειδίζεσθε ἐν ὀνόματι Χριστοῦ, μακάριοι, ὅτι τὸ τῆς δόξης καὶ τὸ τοῦ θεοῦ πνεῦμα ἐφ᾿ ὑμᾶς ἀναπαύεται. What we do find is ὁ λόγος τοῦ θεοῦ Rev. 19:13 καὶ περιβεβλημένος ἱμάτιον βε...
by Stirling Bartholomew
May 12th, 2019, 6:39 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: 2 Maccabees 3:11 Gottingen text
Replies: 5
Views: 153

Re: 2 Maccabees 3:11 Gottingen text

οὕτως ἦν διαβάλλων ὁ δυσσεβὴς Σιμων –Rahlfs οὐχ ὡς διαβάλλων ἦν ὁ δυσσεβὴς Σίμων –Gott. “To such an extent the impious Simon had misrepresented the facts.” –NRSVA, NETS LEH διαβάλλω+ V 0-0-0-3-2-5 Dn 3:8; DnTh 6:25; 2 Mc 3:11; 4 Mc 4:1 to calumniate, to speak slanderously 4 Mc 4:1; to accuse [τινα] ...
by Stirling Bartholomew
May 12th, 2019, 11:59 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: Does κόσμος in the NT connect with the OT usage?
Replies: 13
Views: 323

Re: Does κόσμος in the NT connect with the OT usage?

Disclaimer: After multiple readings, I haven't been able to isolate the "difficulty" you are attempting to solve in your original post. LSJ covers all the bases. IV.1 Philos., world-order, universe, first in Pythag., acc.to Placit.2.1.1, D.L.8.48 (cf. [Philol.]21), or Parm., acc. to Thphr. ap. D.L. ...
by Stirling Bartholomew
May 11th, 2019, 3:39 pm
Forum: Lexicons
Topic: English/Greek Lexicon
Replies: 7
Views: 259

Re: English/Greek Lexicon

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by Stirling Bartholomew
May 11th, 2019, 1:44 pm
Forum: Lexicons
Topic: English/Greek Lexicon
Replies: 7
Views: 259

Re: English/Greek Lexicon

For Attic there is S.C. Woodhouse which is old and expensive. Louw & Nida has an English Gloss index which is searchable in some bible software. I suspect BDAG is also searchable by gloss. LSJ is searchable by English content and perhaps in some cases by gloss.
by Stirling Bartholomew
May 10th, 2019, 5:10 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: ὁ ἀληθινὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ Θεὸς Λόγος
Replies: 16
Views: 444

Re: ὁ ἀληθινὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ Θεὸς Λόγος

What's odd about this is that the other grammars simply don't comment on it. There is a time to read grammars and a time to forget grammars. Grammars get in the way of learning to read. You don't need to know what this thing your staring at was called by Victorian philologists. Just notice the patt...
by Stirling Bartholomew
May 9th, 2019, 1:25 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: ὁ ἀληθινὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ Θεὸς Λόγος
Replies: 16
Views: 444

Re: ὁ ἀληθινὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ Θεὸς Λόγος

ἡ τοῦ Θεοῦ Δύναμις is in apposition to ὁ Λόγος? I think so. I expect that two are in apposition to the third. Apposition goes in pairs. In translation, you would add a relative pronoun to the 3rd one and make it a relative clause. So, God's power, the Word, who is the master... Daniel and Dimi, Tha...
by Stirling Bartholomew
May 8th, 2019, 2:03 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: ὁ ἀληθινὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ Θεὸς Λόγος
Replies: 16
Views: 444

Re: ὁ ἀληθινὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ Θεὸς Λόγος

The pair-form θεὸς λόγος often appears. I've seen it in Origen, Chrysostom, Orthodox liturgy, theological tract... Here is something else from the same context: § 46.3a Πότε δὲ ἡ δαιμόνων ἀπάτη καὶ μανία κατεφρονήθη, εἰ μὴ ὅτε ἡ τοῦ Θεοῦ Δύναμις ὁ Λόγος, ὁ πάντων καὶ τούτων Δεσπότης, διὰ τὴν τῶν ἀν...
by Stirling Bartholomew
May 7th, 2019, 11:47 am
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: ὁ ἀληθινὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ Θεὸς Λόγος
Replies: 16
Views: 444

Re: ὁ ἀληθινὸς τοῦ Θεοῦ Θεὸς Λόγος

When I read the quote cold, I read it as "the true 'God of God' word". He is the true word, which is God of God That is, a (similar, but not identical) echo of the creed: Θεὸν ἀληθινὸν ἐκ Θεοῦ ἀληθινοῦ. Whether or not that works grammatically, I don't know. Your analysis admirably demonstrates the ...