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by Stirling Bartholomew
September 21st, 2018, 1:11 pm
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Preposed Verb-initial Units
Replies: 4
Views: 210

Re: Preposed Verb-initial Units

It’s been a while since I’ve read Recht, and his dissertation convinced me that post-verbal focus was a thing in Greek. By “non-syntactic” he means that the PVU need not be a (full) syntactic constituent. It may not seem like a big deal to those used to Greek hyperbaton and other forms of “disconti...
by Stirling Bartholomew
September 19th, 2018, 5:47 pm
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Preposed Verb-initial Units
Replies: 4
Views: 210

Re: Preposed Verb-initial Units

I haven't read it, but if he's talking about Verb+clitic (or well, anything+clitic), then there are a number of established terms: "phonological word", for example. I've been convinced for a while that discussions of word order/constituent order that only looks at grammatical words rather than phon...
by Stirling Bartholomew
September 19th, 2018, 12:59 pm
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Preposed Verb-initial Units
Replies: 4
Views: 210

Preposed Verb-initial Units

A fact that has often gone unremarked in previous analyses of clause-initial verbs in Greek is that many such verbs are fronted along with additional material: that is, initial verbs can be followed by one or more other constituents or subconstituents with which they appear to form a unit. Such uni...
by Stirling Bartholomew
September 18th, 2018, 2:12 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην
Replies: 27
Views: 853

Re: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην

Thanks. I tried finding several of the articles on JSTOR, but for once it let me down. If you want to see a sample of current " Discourse-Pragmatic " work check out Tom Recht:2015. He reviews the last several decades. A road map of sorts. Tom Recht, “Verb-Initial Clauses in Ancient Greek Prose: A D...
by Stirling Bartholomew
September 17th, 2018, 7:28 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην
Replies: 27
Views: 853

Re: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην

I have almost given up on word order as a topic. Been reading mostly outside the NT & LXX since 2000. Don't subscribe to Helma Dik's framework anymore. Been observing patterns through a different lens. Seems to be a pattern of stacking up elements that would be found at the bottom of the generative[...
by Stirling Bartholomew
September 15th, 2018, 1:54 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην
Replies: 27
Views: 853

Re: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην

Ναί yes, Stirling, I have long commented that John is good Greek and the most consistently good Greek in the Gospels. The question is deceptive among Gospel readers because John has a limited vocabulary and comes across as 'easy'. One explanation for this is that the stories represent the preaching...
by Stirling Bartholomew
September 14th, 2018, 7:00 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην
Replies: 27
Views: 853

Re: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην

εἶπεν αὐτοῖς ὁ Ἰησοῦς· τὴν ἀρχὴν ὅ τι καὶ λαλῶ ὑμῖν; "What I've been telling you from the beginning." R.E. Brown, AB 1966. Perhaps the perceived level of difficulty concerning the syntax results from expectations with regard to John's style. Have a difficult time understanding why this would be wort...
by Stirling Bartholomew
September 10th, 2018, 2:57 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: New Linguistic Theories to learn
Replies: 6
Views: 254

Re: New Linguistic Theories to learn

What I don't recommend: anything generative or Chomskyan (they're just asking different questions about language than what's helpful to understanding the text). On the other hand, without any knowledge of generative grammar your going to be out of luck trying to understand what is going on in a hug...
by Stirling Bartholomew
September 4th, 2018, 12:57 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Hebrews 6:18-19
Replies: 4
Views: 152

Re: Hebrews 6:18-19

A somewhat difficult metaphor. ... ἀσφαλῆ τε καὶ βεβαίαν καὶ εἰσερχομένην εἰς ... These words may refer, as far as the structure of the sentence is concerned, either to 'hope, the main subject, or to the 'anchor, with which it is compared. Brooke Foss Westcott - 1920 Westcott then proceeds to talk a...