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by Bill Ross 2
June 8th, 2011, 4:11 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Please critique my theory of
Replies: 17
Views: 3354

Re: Please critique my theory of

I think the subjunctive is a consequence of ἵνα here. And I suspect English works the same way: I worked hard so that you could go to college <- good English I worked hard so you might go to college <- good English Thank you. I find "might" to be functionally equivalent to "could", but less ambiguo...
by Bill Ross 2
June 8th, 2011, 2:43 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Please critique my theory of
Replies: 17
Views: 3354

Re: Please critique my theory of

Secondly, ἵνα is almost certainly purpose or result (hard to tell the difference sometimes, even in context. Render "that we might become the righteousness of God in him." There is no "could" about it. Would you equate the subjunctive in this case with "would"? IE: "...so that we would become..."? ...
by Bill Ross 2
June 7th, 2011, 12:36 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Please critique my theory of
Replies: 17
Views: 3354

Re: Please critique my theory of

And as you mention, the accusative in τὸν μὴ γνόντα ἁμαρτία is key to understanding the structure of 2 Cor 5:21.
Okay, thank you.
by Bill Ross 2
June 7th, 2011, 8:58 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Please critique my theory of
Replies: 17
Views: 3354

Re: Please critique my theory of

I'm not sure if I was understood concerning what my theory is, so let me be more clear... This is a question, not a statement: τὸν μὴ γνόντα ἁμαρτίαν <-- the subject - God ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν <-- "concerning us" ἁμαρτίαν ἐποίησεν <-- the action... "commited an offense" ἵνα ἡμεῖς γενώμεθα <--in order that we m...
by Bill Ross 2
June 6th, 2011, 7:35 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Please critique my theory of
Replies: 17
Views: 3354

Re: Please critique my theory of

Sure... Actually, it is 1 Cor: τὸν μὴ γνόντα ἁμαρτίαν ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν ἁμαρτίαν ἐποίησεν, ἵνα ἡμεῖς γενώμεθα δικαιοσύνη θεοῦ ἐν αὐτῷ. Is ἐποίησεν describing an action by τὸν μὴ γνόντα ἁμαρτίαν ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν? Or did τὸν μὴ γνόντα ἁμαρτίαν ὑπὲρ ἡμῶν commit (ἐποίησεν) ἁμαρτίαν? As background, I point out a simila...
by Bill Ross 2
June 6th, 2011, 7:17 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Please critique my theory of
Replies: 17
Views: 3354

Please critique my theory of

This, I believe, is fairly representative of how 2 Cor 5:21 is generally rendered: 2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. For more samples, see: http://bible.cc/2_corinthians/5-21.htm My theory is that, rather than taki...
by Bill Ross 2
June 6th, 2011, 7:29 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: John 14:30
Replies: 24
Views: 4199

Re: John 14:30

While I still don't quite grasp the passage, I think you have all helped so much to make clear what the words mean, and for this I thank you. I think that the rest I will ponder privately based on the context etc. But again, many thanks.
by Bill Ross 2
June 5th, 2011, 8:21 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: John 14:30
Replies: 24
Views: 4199

Re: John 14:30

According to the NA apparatus, there only significant textual variant is the substitution εὑρήσει for ἔχει, which does nothing to change the issue. I agree with the rule of thumb, but don't find εὑρήσει for ἔχει to be a trivial or inconseqential variance. Another variant appears in the previous phr...
by Bill Ross 2
June 5th, 2011, 8:10 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: John 14:30
Replies: 24
Views: 4199

Re: John 14:30

On the same link I sent (http://bible.cc/john/14-30.htm) are several commentators cited at the bottom on the page, giving a wide variety of translations and views.
by Bill Ross 2
June 5th, 2011, 8:05 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: John 14:30
Replies: 24
Views: 4199

Re: John 14:30

Bill, I think "he has no hold on me" does make sense here - Jesus is saying he is acting in obedience to his Father, so that the world will know that he loves him, not as a slave to the ruler of this world. I think BDAG and the vast majority of translations got this right. I think you are right abo...

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