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- February 26th, 2013, 3:55 pm
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: Rom. 8:28... adverbial or adjectival prepositional phrase?
- Replies: 13
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Re: Rom. 8:28... adverbial or adjectival prepositional phras
I gave a biblical example, which I thought would make my point obvious, because I thought that would be contextually relevant to another biblical text. The invitee was identified as "one not according to the king's purpose" (adjectival phrase) because he was not wearing a supplied wedding...
- February 25th, 2013, 5:29 pm
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: Rom. 8:28... adverbial or adjectival prepositional phrase?
- Replies: 13
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Re: Rom. 8:28... adverbial or adjectival prepositional phras
Why do you say "there is no noun in the clause"? κλητοῖς (invitees) is a noun? It seems to me that κλητοῖς is a verbal adjective, especially in connection with οὖσιν. If κατὰ πρόθεσιν were adjectival, then the invitees under consideration are those who are κατὰ πρόθεσιν, as opposed to the...
- February 18th, 2013, 5:53 am
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: Rom. 8:28... adverbial or adjectival prepositional phrase?
- Replies: 13
- Views: 4199
Re: Rom. 8:28... adverbial or adjectival prepositional phras
David Lim wrote: Paul Thomson wrote: If we look at Romans 8:28 we see - A. οἴδαμεν δὲ ὅτι τοῖς ἀγαπῶσιν τὸν θεὸν πάντα συνεργεῖ εἰς ἀγαθόν, τοῖς κατὰ πρόθεσιν κλητοῖς οὖσιν. Should κατὰ πρόθεσιν be treated as an adjectival prepositional phrase, describing which/what type of invitees are meant? Or a...
- February 17th, 2013, 6:33 pm
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: Rom. 8:28... adverbial or adjectival prepositional phrase?
- Replies: 13
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Rom. 8:28... adverbial or adjectival prepositional phrase?
I have been trying to apply the lessons learned here concerning adjectival and adverbial prepositional phrases and distinguishing between the two. If we look at Romans 8:28 we see - A. οἴδαμεν δὲ ὅτι τοῖς ἀγαπῶσιν τὸν θεὸν πάντα συνεργεῖ εἰς ἀγαθόν, τοῖς κατὰ πρόθεσιν κλητοῖς οὖσιν . :?: Should κατὰ...
- November 23rd, 2012, 7:11 pm
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: 1 Pet 4:2 re Adjectival Use of Prepositional Phrases
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1 Pet 4:2 re Adjectival Use of Prepositional Phrases
1 Peter 4 1 Χριστοῦ οὖν παθόντος σαρκὶ καὶ ὑμεῖς τὴν αὐτὴν ἔννοιαν ὁπλίσασθε, ὅτι ὁ παθὼν σαρκὶ πέπαυται ἁμαρτίας 2 εἰς τὸ μηκέτι ἀνθρώπων ἐπιθυμίαις ἀλλὰ θελήματι θεοῦ τὸν ἐπίλοιπον ἐν σαρκὶ βιῶσαι χρόνον. 3 ἀρκετὸς γὰρ ὁ παρεληλυθὼς χρόνος τὸ βούλημα τῶν ἐθνῶν κατειργάσθαι πεπορευμένους ἐν ἀσελγεί...
- November 14th, 2012, 3:48 pm
- Forum: Syntax and Grammar
- Topic: Adjectival Use of Prepositional Phrases
- Replies: 29
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Re: Adjectival Use of Prepositional Phrases
Just to clarify. I provided Jason with these examples in another forum, when I was asking for opinions on Romans 1:20 16 Οὐ γὰρ ἐπαισχύνομαι τὸ εὐαγγέλιον, δύναμις γὰρ θεοῦ ἐστιν εἰς σωτηρίαν παντὶ τῷ πιστεύοντι, Ἰουδαίῳ τε πρῶτον καὶ Ἕλληνι. 17 δικαιοσύνη γὰρ θεοῦ ἐν αὐτῷ ἀποκαλύπτεται ἐκ πίστεως ε...
- August 1st, 2012, 6:10 pm
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: Constructio ad Sensum in the prologue of John
- Replies: 41
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Re: Constructio ad Sensum in the prologue of John
by David Lim » July 31st, 2012, 5:41 am Paul Thomson wrote: Clearly, if the life was in Him, and the life was the light of men, then the light of men was in Him, and the light of men cannot actually be Him. This part is not grammar but interpretation. How it is that "life was in/by him" i...
- July 30th, 2012, 4:38 am
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: Constructio ad Sensum in the prologue of John
- Replies: 41
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Re: Constructio ad Sensum in the prologue of John
I think the OP was partly assuming that there was a change between a neuter pronoun in v. 5 (αυτο) and a masculine pronoun (αυτον) for the same entity . I agree that there is no constructio ad sensum in 5, since neuter is what φως is grammatically. I don't see anything superfluous to a commentary on...
- July 29th, 2012, 10:19 pm
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: Constructio ad Sensum in the prologue of John
- Replies: 41
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Re: Constructio ad Sensum in the prologue of John
Sorry if I said too much. :o My point was that the light in v. 5 is said to be IN the Word, so it cannot be the Word itself, and as such is understandably neuter. But in v. 10 we read of "the true light" (i.e. the source of the light of v.5), and is therefore the Word himself, and is under...
- July 29th, 2012, 5:55 pm
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: Constructio ad Sensum in the prologue of John
- Replies: 41
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Re: Constructio ad Sensum in the prologue of John
4 ἐν αὐτῷ ζωὴ ἦν, καὶ ἡ ζωὴ (the life that was in him, so not "the true light himself") ἦν τὸ φῶς τῶν ἀνθρώπων· ( The life originating in the Word is identified here as the light that guides men to what is good, not as the one in whom the light originates .) 5 καὶ τὸ φῶς (the light that em...