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by KimmoHuovila
March 21st, 2015, 9:44 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Rank shifting
Replies: 31
Views: 3211

Re: Rank shifting

The notion of rank-shifting is useful in that it describes what is happening from a structural standpoint, but it requires additional consideration along the lines of Levinsohn's "default/marked" and "choice implying meaning" principles to nail down more precisely the exact nature of the choice. Ot...
by KimmoHuovila
March 20th, 2015, 1:52 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Rank shifting
Replies: 31
Views: 3211

Re: Rank shifting

I chose the term 'rank shifting' to emphasize the fact that I am looking into the relationship of elements in two different ranks: clauses and noun phrases. But for my limited purpose here, we can talk about the syntax of prepositions as long as we can talk about subjects and objects and the relatio...
by KimmoHuovila
March 19th, 2015, 8:15 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Rank shifting
Replies: 31
Views: 3211

Re: Rank shifting

(1) I don't think there's any way in the world to disambiguate between subjective and objective genitive in ἡ φιλία τοῦ Ἀκύλα. I was not clear. I do not mean disambiguate in the sense of what readers do. I mean how to write it in an unambiguous way. (3) I do think Greek writers tend to avoid constr...
by KimmoHuovila
March 19th, 2015, 8:06 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Rank shifting
Replies: 31
Views: 3211

Re: Rank shifting

Stephen, I am basically trying to figure out what ways of rank shifting a clause into a noun phrase are 'good Greek', meaning grammatical and secondarily, considered normal (as opposed to 'foreign' or 'awkward'). My interest is in noun phrases that are headed by a noun and not composition per se. Wh...
by KimmoHuovila
March 19th, 2015, 3:02 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Rank shifting
Replies: 31
Views: 3211

Re: Rank shifting

How would a writer disambiguate between the subjective and objective genitives in ἡ φιλία τοῦ Ἀκύλα? ἡ φιλία ἣν ἔχει ὁ Ἀκύλας and ἡ φιλία πρὸς τὸν Ἀκύλαν? Would 1 John 4:16 support using ἐν to indicate the object or is it irrelevant? I looked at a few grammars on rank shifting and found nothing. Is ...
by KimmoHuovila
March 19th, 2015, 2:19 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Rank shifting
Replies: 31
Views: 3211

Re: Rank shifting

Trying to steer the conversation back to my question about rank shifting, I notice that LSJ says about φιλία the person is commonly expressed by πρός τινα...less freq. εἰς ἀλλήλους...also by object. gen. The purpose of the permutations was just to make the question shorter. For example my number (3)...
by KimmoHuovila
March 18th, 2015, 8:16 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Rank shifting
Replies: 31
Views: 3211

Rank shifting

Which of the following makes for a good continuation and which are not good Greek? (Optional words are in parentheses and alternatives in brackets.) Γινώσκομεν ὅτι ὁ Ἀκύλας φιλεῖ τὴν Πρίσκιλλαν. Τοῦτ' ἔστιν, γινώσκομεν (1) τὴν φιλίαν (τὴν) [ἀπὸ, ἐκ, παρὰ] τοῦ Ἀκύλα [εἰς, πρὸς] τὴν Πρίσκιλλαν. (2) τὴ...
by KimmoHuovila
November 2nd, 2013, 2:08 pm
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Relevance theory
Replies: 3
Views: 904

Relevance theory

In what ways have you found relevance theory useful for the exegete?
by KimmoHuovila
May 14th, 2013, 1:17 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: The Terminology of Aspect & Aktionsart
Replies: 28
Views: 23234

Re: Aspect & Aktionsart

Is there any reason why not recognize aspect as truly layered? 'Walk' is atelic, 'walk to the park' is telic, 'walk to the park every day' is atelic, 'walk to the park every day for a week' is telic etc? While there is aspectual polysemy, here the issue seems to be the whole phrase, not just the ve...
by KimmoHuovila
May 14th, 2013, 10:26 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: The Terminology of Aspect & Aktionsart
Replies: 28
Views: 23234

Re: Aspect & Aktionsart

Is there any reason why not recognize aspect as truly layered? 'Walk' is atelic, 'walk to the park' is telic, 'walk to the park every day' is atelic, 'walk to the park every day for a week' is telic etc? While there is aspectual polysemy, here the issue seems to be the whole phrase, not just the verb.