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by jdhadwin
September 28th, 2015, 11:30 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: βαπτιζόμενοι ὑπὲρ τῶν νεκρῶν
Replies: 24
Views: 2263

Re: βαπτιζόμενοι ὑπὲρ τῶν νεκρῶν

[Two questions: Is the preposition ὑπὲρ (c.gen.) ever used of self interest? Is the preposition ever used with a middle-passive form? It's going to take me awhile, but I'll answer that ASAP. I have no idea right now. ~Off to find the edge pieces of the puzzle ;) As a beginner, I really think you sh...
by jdhadwin
September 27th, 2015, 3:11 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: βαπτιζόμενοι ὑπὲρ τῶν νεκρῶν
Replies: 24
Views: 2263

Re: βαπτιζόμενοι ὑπὲρ τῶν νεκρῶν

John, just a note of encouragement. Many of the participants on this list have literally decades of working with Greek, do or have taught Greek on a regular basis, and very cheerfully love to help beginners see it for themselves. It would be a good idea to accept what they say and and add it to you...
by jdhadwin
September 26th, 2015, 11:20 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: βαπτιζόμενοι ὑπὲρ τῶν νεκρῶν
Replies: 24
Views: 2263

Re: βαπτιζόμενοι ὑπὲρ τῶν νεκρῶν

I thought the final genitive phrase was encapsulated within the accusative prompts τί. Does that make sense? Actually, it doesn't – at least, not to me. The only issue relevant to your original proposal is the case of the object of ὑπὲρ. The meaning of ὑπὲρ is determined by the case it governs. Not...
by jdhadwin
September 26th, 2015, 7:26 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: βαπτιζόμενοι ὑπὲρ τῶν νεκρῶν
Replies: 24
Views: 2263

Re: βαπτιζόμενοι ὑπὲρ τῶν νεκρῶν

Let me satisfy your curiosity. ὑπὲρ governing the accusative means 'beyond, above' or such. ὑπὲρ governing the genitive means 'concerning, on behalf of' or the like. You're trying to take the accusative meaning and import it into the use of ὑπὲρ with the genitive. Well thanks for pointing out that ...
by jdhadwin
September 26th, 2015, 1:54 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: βαπτιζόμενοι ὑπὲρ τῶν νεκρῶν
Replies: 24
Views: 2263

βαπτιζόμενοι ὑπὲρ τῶν νεκρῶν

Hello again everyone. Ἐπεὶ τί ποιήσουσιν οἱ βαπτιζόμενοι ὑπὲρ τῶν νεκρῶν εἰ ὅλως νεκροὶ οὐκ ἐγείρονται τί καὶ βαπτίζονται ὑπὲρ τῶν νεκρῶν Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead? ~1st Corinthians 15:29 After lookin...
by jdhadwin
September 1st, 2015, 3:58 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Is this true of participles?
Replies: 9
Views: 918

Re: Is this true of participles?

On B-Greek, we don't discuss doctrine. We don't claim that any web site is full of false doctrine or true doctrine or whatever. People motivated by doctrine are rarely good sources for language instruction. Naming specific people or web sites that are highly doctrinal here tends to be troll bait, I...
by jdhadwin
September 1st, 2015, 8:08 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Is this true of participles?
Replies: 9
Views: 918

Re: Is this true of participles?

I've never heard of this before. I found it in none of the literature. Whether this was true-ish of Greek participles I couldn't be sure. Spanish has two tenses for the past tense, one for ongoing past action (broke a glass every Saturday), and one for stuff that has an apparent conclusion or immedi...
by jdhadwin
September 1st, 2015, 12:21 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Is this true of participles?
Replies: 9
Views: 918

Is this true of participles?

I found this quote on a website that discusses Koine participles. Is what XXXX said true? Here is a quote from Mr. XXXX response to one of the questions I emailed him. Regarding the difference between the present participle and the present tense, there is a distinct difference. When a writer uses th...
by jdhadwin
August 31st, 2015, 7:56 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: 1st Corinthians 14:14 & 19
Replies: 12
Views: 1227

Re: 1st Corinthians 14:14 & 19

Thanks Stephen,

I have some learning ahead of me. I downloaded a few Greek apps and will get the references you mentioned, budget permitting :)

Thanks everyone,

~John
by jdhadwin
August 30th, 2015, 9:09 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Squinting Modifiers
Replies: 25
Views: 2048

Re: Squinting Modifiers

Okay, now I totally get it. For some reason I glossed right over the seq. ἐν part of the second definition. I suppose all those abbreviations are good in that they eliminate about 1,500 additional pages or more, but man it's almost as easy to follow as regular expressions . At least regular express...