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by Peter Streitenberger
September 22nd, 2017, 1:54 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Help needed in Rev
Replies: 2
Views: 58

Help needed in Rev

Dear friends, can anyone help me to understand the last sentence in Revelation 21:16 (the Byz reading is the δώδεκα, left out by TR/NA, as it was too difficult, I think, but I want to translate Byz, with the number 12) : Καὶ ἡ πόλις τετράγωνος κεῖται, καὶ τὸ μῆκος αὐτῆς ὅσον τὸ πλάτος. Καὶ ἐμέτρησεν...
by Peter Streitenberger
July 1st, 2017, 6:46 am
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Reference of ἄξιοί in Rev 16,16
Replies: 0
Views: 497

Reference of ἄξιοί in Rev 16,16

Dear friends, I stumbled reading the following sentence: ὅτι αἷμα ἁγίων καὶ προφητῶν ἐξέχεαν, καὶ αἷμα αὐτοῖς ἔδωκας πιεῖν· ἄξιοί εἰσιν. for they have poured out the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; they are worthy. How is the "ἄξιοί εἰσιν" connected to the text...
by Peter Streitenberger
June 20th, 2017, 4:42 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2
Replies: 11
Views: 770

Re: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2

As an addition, as I could not edit the former text: M. Psellus, In E. Nic. 549.6: "δυνατὸν δὲ αὐτοὺς νικῆσαι οὐκ ἐκ προφανοῦς πο- λέμου". "it is possible now that they win not out of a forseen battle". Same author (Oratoria min. 2.37: " ἀλλ’ ἐπὶ τῷ μάχεσθαι νικᾶν τε καὶ εἰρήνην ἐκ πολέμου ποιεῖν". ...
by Peter Streitenberger
June 20th, 2017, 1:04 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2
Replies: 11
Views: 770

Re: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2

Dear all, thank you for all your help so far - the discussion is of high value for me, as I feel not able to get along with that alone. Each contribution was combined with new insights for me. Stirling, I would provide a translation of Perseus for the quote of Thyc., which fits very good in this deb...
by Peter Streitenberger
June 19th, 2017, 11:20 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2
Replies: 11
Views: 770

Re: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2

Dear Jonathan, That's not really what an adjunct is. An adjunct is not an argument of the verb, it is not even a predicate. Consider these examples: s I v read o a writing + on chocolate milk Of course an adjunct is not part of the main clause predicate or depends syntactically on it, but stands by ...
by Peter Streitenberger
June 19th, 2017, 9:52 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2
Replies: 11
Views: 770

Re: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2

Dear Robert, to prove a Latin substratum for John would be hard for L. Mot - except for some loanwords, the direction is more towards a Aramaic/Hebrew substratum - but Mot is of value despite as the more plausible connection to the native language of John (A/H) could be checked. That is indeed somet...
by Peter Streitenberger
June 19th, 2017, 2:21 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2
Replies: 11
Views: 770

Re: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2

Dear Jonathan and Robert, if I see clearly then you both would differ in the status of the ἐκ and what is connected to it. Jonathan, you would see the connected items as adjuncts and you, Robert as Objects, and the ἐκ moves from a prefix position of the verb ἐκνικάω to the threefold object. Of cours...
by Peter Streitenberger
June 17th, 2017, 5:43 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2
Replies: 11
Views: 770

νικάω + ἐκ in Rev. 15,2

Dear friends, today I arrive with a (for me at least) tricky question. In Rev. 15,2 it states: Καὶ εἶδον ὡς θάλασσαν ὑαλίνην μεμιγμένην πυρί, καὶ τοὺς νικῶντας ἐκ τοῦ θηρίου καὶ ἐκ τῆς εἰκόνος αὐτοῦ καὶ ἐκ τοῦ ἀριθμοῦ τοῦ ὀνόματος αὐτοῦ, ἑστῶτας ἐπὶ τὴν θάλασσαν τὴν ὑαλίνην, ἔχοντας κιθάρας τοῦ θεοῦ...
by Peter Streitenberger
May 15th, 2017, 9:17 am
Forum: Books
Topic: RP 2010 as cheap print edition available
Replies: 3
Views: 285

Re: RP 2010 as cheap print edition available

On my desk now, arrived 4 hours ago: The Greek New Testament for Beginning Readers: Byzantine Textform 2016 & Verb Parsing 34,95 $. Features: New and updated Text, good binding (someone told nonsense on that on Amazon - my one is as good as gold, a feature that justifies the price). To quote the sho...
by Peter Streitenberger
May 6th, 2017, 4:56 am
Forum: Books
Topic: RP 2010 as cheap print edition available
Replies: 3
Views: 285

RP 2010 as cheap print edition available

Dear friends, in front of me: The New Testament in the Original Greek: Byzantine Textform 2005/2010. Two editions are available: A) for 9,95$ or B) for 11,95$. I got and prefer the cheaper one, that has the advantage, that no NA readings are in the Text with brackets (as in the other edition), so a ...