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by Ed Martirosyan
January 10th, 2018, 10:40 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Question on Mt. 7:22
Replies: 29
Views: 13949

Re: Question on Mt. 7:22

If any of you think that I came to learn Greek or to have a deeper knowledge of this language for the sake of learning linguistics, I am not here for that, since I already speak several languages. I have no time for that and no chance to practice. Ah - I think I understand where the disconnect is c...
by Ed Martirosyan
January 9th, 2018, 7:02 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Question on Mt. 7:22
Replies: 29
Views: 13949

Re: Question on Mt. 7:22

But you do not. You reject every translation of this verse from sources generally considered reliable because you insist that one particular gloss is the 'true meaning' of the word in the Koine period. And you did not look this verse up in the BDAG lexicon to see what meaning Danker believes it has...
by Ed Martirosyan
January 9th, 2018, 6:41 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Question on Mt. 7:22
Replies: 29
Views: 13949

Re: Question on Mt. 7:22

I'm fishing around for other possible sources of confusion - why is it that you find it so hard to see this as a question? - and I found this: I do not see any interrogative pronouns in the Greek text nor the ἆρα (687 Strong's) to suggest the sentence to be in a question format. Perhaps you think t...
by Ed Martirosyan
January 9th, 2018, 6:34 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Question on Mt. 7:22
Replies: 29
Views: 13949

Re: Question on Mt. 7:22

As a one who has for a long time followed this forum I believe that everyone here agrees with Jonathan and Barry. It's very difficult to answer to you because you don't believe those who know quite much Greek, here or elsewhere. You seem to have have faulty presuppositions and methodologies and it'...
by Ed Martirosyan
January 8th, 2018, 10:43 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Question on Mt. 7:22
Replies: 29
Views: 13949

Re: Question on Mt. 7:22

Thank you for your response. :) I don't think the grammar rules this out, It is important for me to know that there are no grammatical objections. Thank you for that. Like Barry, I also think there are grammatical reasons to think that this meaning is not likely, I don't think it fits the context o...
by Ed Martirosyan
January 8th, 2018, 10:20 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Question on Mt. 7:22
Replies: 29
Views: 13949

Re: Question on Mt. 7:22

Yes, I know that very well, Barry. But the reason they do so is not because it is a grammatical must. They do so because they all follow specific context they learned from each other. I believe there is another context that is more faithful to the text. That is why I am here, to check the grammar. ...
by Ed Martirosyan
January 8th, 2018, 12:24 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Question on Mt. 7:22
Replies: 29
Views: 13949

Re: Question on Mt. 7:22

Ed, nobody has ever read this as anything other than a question, as far back as Jerome, who uses "nonne" (a particle in Latin which introduces a question expecting a "yes" answer). Yes, I know that very well, Barry. But the reason they do so is not because it is a grammatical must. They do so becau...
by Ed Martirosyan
January 8th, 2018, 11:58 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Question on Mt. 7:22
Replies: 29
Views: 13949

Re: Question on Mt. 7:22

Concerning kai. Yes, ουδε is better: "We did not prophesy... nor cast out... nor perform..." However, kai may also be translated (and often is) as "also". Maybe even "as well". Or, kai may be substituted by a comma. Yes, ουδε is better, but does it definitely decide for the traditional translation?...
by Ed Martirosyan
January 8th, 2018, 11:55 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Question on Mt. 7:22
Replies: 29
Views: 13949

Re: Question on Mt. 7:22

And here they claim that he should recognize them since they lived in the same streets. But elsewhere Christ was saying that unless people proclaim his name he would not proclaim theirs in the presence of the Father. What is the word used in that passage? The word used was λέγω ... to say, relate. ...
by Ed Martirosyan
January 6th, 2018, 5:35 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Question on Mt. 7:22
Replies: 29
Views: 13949

Re: Question on Mt. 7:22

Thank you for your response. :) I don't think the grammar rules this out, It is important for me to know that there are no grammatical objections. Thank you for that. ... but I don't think it makes contextual sense. Let's look at the verse that comes right before 7:22: clip So the context is talking...

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