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by sethknorr
June 18th, 2020, 6:06 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: ἐν (τῷ) κόσμῳ
Replies: 20
Views: 696

Re: ἐν (τῷ) κόσμῳ

Might Colossians 2:20 be because Paul was trying to indicate it was not previous reference, similar to John 1:1 with καὶ Θεὸς ἦν ὁ Λόγος. 1:6 τῷ κόσμῳ I would understand as earth. 2:8 τοῦ κόσμου I would understand as universe. 2:20 τοῦ κόσμου I would understand as universe. 2:20 ἐν κόσμῳ I would und...
by sethknorr
June 9th, 2020, 7:54 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Translation of non-genitive / genitive Proper names
Replies: 5
Views: 201

Re: Translation of non-genitive / genitive Proper names

I would agree, in that specific context, but of course the topic is kids and their parents, so yes that would be the go to. In the gospels they are just naming names with zero context, so it’s not really apples to apples. I ask for examples because I have seen a lot of these constructions in secular...
by sethknorr
June 9th, 2020, 5:52 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Translation of non-genitive / genitive Proper names
Replies: 5
Views: 201

Re: Translation of non-genitive / genitive Proper names

If I heard Jonathan's Kathy, I would think wife or daughter. But probably wife. I wouldn’t think mother. Even if I knew Jonathan had a mother named Kathy I would still wonder if he got a new girl friend or had a baby. We don’t say Kathy of Johnathan, but if I heard that I still would not ever think ...
by sethknorr
June 8th, 2020, 10:33 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Translation of non-genitive / genitive Proper names
Replies: 5
Views: 201

Translation of non-genitive / genitive Proper names

Does anyone know of any examples outside the New Testament in Koine where a non-genitive proper name is followed by a genitive proper name (articular or anarthrous), without modifiers; with the translation being the parent is the non-genitive and the child is genitive. Or examples where they are nam...
by sethknorr
October 2nd, 2018, 11:33 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Mistranslation of Luke’s Genealogy?
Replies: 8
Views: 7950

Re: Mistranslation of Luke’s Genealogy?

Jonathan, here are the answers to your questions. Did you propose a test that proves whether a particular example is emphatic or not? Emphatic was a reference to application of the rule, not to how a verse was translated. See above post, I think it is now easier to understand what I meant. An object...
by sethknorr
October 2nd, 2018, 11:20 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Mistranslation of Luke’s Genealogy?
Replies: 8
Views: 7950

Re: Mistranslation of Luke’s Genealogy?

1) I don't know what emphatic means in the context of your paper. Mike asked you, but you didn't really answer. What I meant: whenever this construct appears in the NT, the rule applies, and the structure is always simple apposition (Two nouns in Regimen). Ie. The anarthrous proper name is in appos...
by sethknorr
October 2nd, 2018, 11:13 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Mistranslation of Luke’s Genealogy?
Replies: 8
Views: 7950

Re: Mistranslation of Luke’s Genealogy?

Thank you to everyone for taking the time to read and critique my research. I appreciate all the feedback, and you both have opened my eyes to some areas of the paper that I need to add additional information and also the parts that need more clarity. I tried not to overload the paper with too much ...
by sethknorr
September 29th, 2018, 1:09 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Mistranslation of Luke’s Genealogy?
Replies: 8
Views: 7950

Re: Mistranslation of Luke’s Genealogy?

I formatted all references into a spreadsheet. You can download the list of all references in Excel: http://www.smartbiblesearch.com/XNTN.xlsx Compatibility version: http://www.smartbiblesearch.com/XNTN.xls Note, on the references that I had as (x2), ie. two identical phrases in the same passage, wi...
by sethknorr
September 27th, 2018, 5:49 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Mistranslation of Luke’s Genealogy?
Replies: 8
Views: 7950

Re: Mistranslation of Luke’s Genealogy?

Mike, Thanks for your response. Clarifying what I mean by emphatic; in the New Testament every appearance of this structure is always simple apposition. I would presume the only verse anyone would challenge is Luke 3:23, which my research led me to believe is also simple apposition and not a genitiv...
by sethknorr
September 27th, 2018, 12:20 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Mistranslation of Luke’s Genealogy?
Replies: 8
Views: 7950

Mistranslation of Luke’s Genealogy?

I did a good bit of research in proving a specific emphatic rule for Simple Apposition in the New Testament and found the only disputed verse that is currently translated differently than the rule I proved is part of Luke’s genealogy, which it seems no one has been able to figure out. I researched t...

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