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by Jean Putmans
January 10th, 2020, 12:45 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Luke 5:19
Replies: 1
Views: 85

Luke 5:19

In Luke 5:19 the Greek Editions (NA28 and Robinson Pierpoint) have και μη ευροντες ποιας εισενεγκωσιν ... In the Manuscripts (checking 342 Mss. of the INTF) I found the following variants for ποιας: ποιας : By far the majority πωσ : 85 x ποθεν: 23 x δια ποιας οδου : 13 x δια ποιας : 4 x ποιας οδου :...
by Jean Putmans
December 23rd, 2019, 1:21 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: Luke 6:27 εχθρους
Replies: 13
Views: 526

Re: Luke 6:27 εχθρους

Dear Daniel, thanks for the great explanation and your search for examples. As the gothic translator in the 4th century here deviated from his usual translation of εχθρος, one has to search for reasons. If one cannot find a good reason, one might say, the Gothic translator made a mistake. "But that ...
by Jean Putmans
December 22nd, 2019, 2:24 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: Luke 6:27 εχθρους
Replies: 13
Views: 526

Re: Luke 6:27 εχθρους

Daniel, thank You for the answer. But this β-item in BDAG belongs to the b-part of the lemma, where BDAG addresses the substantival meaning of εχθρος; there I understand the gen. as an object-genitive, because in fact the substantival meaning is some in-between: enemy = some one you hate and/or some...
by Jean Putmans
December 21st, 2019, 1:28 pm
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: Luke 6:27 εχθρους
Replies: 13
Views: 526

Re: Luke 6:27 εχθρους

Thanks Barry,

the semantic part of εχθροσ is clear;

εχθρουσ υμων ???

would υμων turn into an Object or into a Subject in the explanation: "The ones that hate you" or "The ones you hate" or are both possible?

Regards

Jean
by Jean Putmans
December 19th, 2019, 7:49 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: Luke 6:27 εχθρους
Replies: 13
Views: 526

Re: Luke 6:27 εχθρους

The numbers below the words correspond (Greek-Gothic). So one can immediatly see, the Gothic follows the Greek almost like an interlinear. akei izwis qiþa þaim hausjandam: 1 2 3 4 5 frijod þans hatandans izwis; 6 7 8 9 waila taujaid þaim fijandam izwis 10 11 12 13 14 Ἀλλ’ ὑμῖν λέγω τοῖς ἀκούουσιν, 1...
by Jean Putmans
December 19th, 2019, 6:35 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: Luke 6:27 εχθρους
Replies: 13
Views: 526

Re: Luke 6:27 εχθρους

"expertise"??? Well I'm trying to become one ... I Studied German Language 40 Years ago (Gothic then was standard part of the Curriculum, being the oldest germanic Language extant in some parts of a greek-gothic bible translation) , worked as a translator, and now - being retired - picked it up agai...
by Jean Putmans
December 19th, 2019, 3:00 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: Luke 6:27 εχθρους
Replies: 13
Views: 526

Re: Luke 6:27 εχθρους

Dear Jason, "The Goth" is the person (or one of the persons), that translated the Bible (or at least parts of it) into the Gothic Language, probably in the last quarter of the 4th century Common Era. A long time scholars were convinced that Ulfila (a Bishop of the Goths) had translated the bible, al...
by Jean Putmans
December 19th, 2019, 1:54 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: Luke 6:27 εχθρους
Replies: 13
Views: 526

Luke 6:27 εχθρους

Question on Luke 6:27 αγαπατε τους εχθρους υμων εχθρος = Adjective = a) passive meaning: being hated; b) active meaning : hating (LSJ, Passow, Pape) ο εχθρος = The enemy (noun) My problem with this word is, that the Goth took the noun in its adjectival meaning, so the Gothic bible here has: "the one...
by Jean Putmans
December 14th, 2019, 1:01 am
Forum: Grammars
Topic: Nunn's Syntax of Attic Greek
Replies: 2
Views: 5682

Re: Nunn's Syntax of Attic Greek

My answer comes a bit late, but nevertheless:

https://archive.org/details/shortsyntaxofatt0000nunn

It is a Book-on-Loan, because it is probably still under copyright. But at least You can use the book.

Regards
Jean
by Jean Putmans
November 23rd, 2019, 3:43 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Replies: 16
Views: 1892

Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns

Dear Peng Huigo "Imagine vocally reading these verses to an audience unfamiliar with christian lore. As the words tumble on, and the listeners process them linearly, how would they construe that αὐτῶν? Note in this situation the influence of the αὐτῶν in v. 29." We should never forget: That was then...

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