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by Peng Huiguo
November 23rd, 2019, 5:38 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Replies: 16
Views: 1526

Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns

Greek word order is sometimes very strange and surprising
Parts of the epistles and extra-biblical texts can be quite convoluted, but the gospels are fairly straightforward.
by Peng Huiguo
November 22nd, 2019, 4:47 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Replies: 16
Views: 1526

Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns

> You apparently deleted the post where you explained this? Ya, I tried copying by hand Wallace here and gave up. Thanks for pasting part of it here. > Partitives are used in very specific constructions, and none of those are used here. How specific? The first eg. in that Smyth snippet τῶν Θρᾳκῶν πε...
by Peng Huiguo
November 22nd, 2019, 4:10 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Replies: 16
Views: 1526

Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns

Jean, I understand. Barry argued for a cataphoric possessive αὐτῶν while I argued for an anaphoric partitive. Note the KJV translators opted for an anaphoric possessive (with perplexing effect)! The situation with the scribes and pharisees at the banquet is uncertain. We don't know the banquet progr...
by Peng Huiguo
November 21st, 2019, 2:48 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Replies: 16
Views: 1526

Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns

Incidentally I find that diminishing μετ᾽ αὐτῶν... αὐτῶν... [empty] delightful.
by Peng Huiguo
November 21st, 2019, 2:14 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Replies: 16
Views: 1526

Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns

Jean, if you can get over the notion that the scribes and pharisees would not join a party thrown by a tax-collector, the anaphoric use of αὐτῶν here reads more naturally than the cataphoric one, don't you think? The greek genitive case doesn't always map to the english "of". I actually prefer RP's ...
by Peng Huiguo
November 21st, 2019, 10:19 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Replies: 16
Views: 1526

Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns

> In this context, it cannot be read any other way.
> This is probably one reason why it's a text critical issue.

It's not. You're reading RP in the context of NA28.
by Peng Huiguo
November 21st, 2019, 9:45 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Replies: 16
Views: 1526

Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns

no γραμματευς would ever enter such a house Actually here some of them apparently did, otherwise how could they speak to Jesus and his disciples? A house holding such a large reception party must include the yard and possibly a couple of streets outside. There's no clear point of entry. Let the tex...
by Peng Huiguo
November 14th, 2019, 11:22 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: New Greek Teacher
Replies: 31
Views: 2555

Re: New Greek Teacher

Would λεπτά better capture the sense of the "cents"?
by Peng Huiguo
November 11th, 2019, 10:07 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Capitalisation of διαβόλος in Ephesians 6:11
Replies: 2
Views: 458

Re: Capitalisation of διαβόλος in Ephesians 6:11

Don't over-read the greek (or english) article. διάβολος (note the location of the accent) is mentioned a few times in the gospels, all in reference to some supernatural being(s, numbers seem to break down in spiritual realm), so here it most probably refers to the same, especially in light of the s...

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