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by jgibson000
September 30th, 2017, 12:22 pm
Forum: Greek Texts
Topic: ήμει̑ν
Replies: 4
Views: 193

ήμει̑ν

Some manuscript witnesses to the Lukan version of the bread petition of the Lord's Prayer read τον αρτον ημών τον έττιοΰσιον δίδου *_ήμει̑ν_* το καθ' ήμεραν rather than the better attested τον αρτον ημών τον έττιοΰσιον δίδου *_ήμιν_* το καθ' ήμεραν. At the risk of showing my ignorance, is _ήμει̑ν_ a...
by jgibson000
June 22nd, 2017, 4:36 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Matthew 12:40
Replies: 5
Views: 511

Matthew 12:40

Just wondering if Matthew 12:40 (ὥσπερ γὰρ ἦν Ἰωνᾶς ἐν τῇ κοιλίᾳ τοῦ κήτους τρεῖς ἡμέρας καὶ τρεῖς νύκτας, οὕτως ἔσται ὁ υἱὸς τοῦ ἀνθρώπου ἐν τῇ καρδίᾳ τῆς γῆς τρεῖς ἡμέρας καὶ τρεῖς νύκτας) could be translated this way: For the Son of Man will be in the heart of the earth for three days and three n...
by jgibson000
April 5th, 2017, 3:36 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: the imperatives in Matt. 6:11 and Luke 11:3b
Replies: 2
Views: 277

the imperatives in Matt. 6:11 and Luke 11:3b

Can anyone here tell me whether from the point of view of aspect there is (or is not) a significant difference in meaning between the present imperative form of δίδωμι that Luke uses in his version of the Bread petition of the Disciples' Prayer and the aorist imperative form of this word that Matthe...
by jgibson000
April 23rd, 2016, 10:05 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: nauthenticity of ἐλθέτω τὸ πνεῦμα σου τὸ ἅγιον ἐφʼ ἡμᾶς καὶ
Replies: 4
Views: 452

Re: inauthenticity of ἐλθέτω τὸ πνεῦμα σου τὸ ἅγιον ἐφʼ ἡμᾶς

I agree with you, Barry ( although the way the LP is set out in Luke does seem to show an intent to conform the structure of the petitions to one another in a balanced way).. And I say something to this effect (though perhaps not as strongly as I should) in what I have just uploaded to academia.edu,...
by jgibson000
April 22nd, 2016, 7:03 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: nauthenticity of ἐλθέτω τὸ πνεῦμα σου τὸ ἅγιον ἐφʼ ἡμᾶς καὶ
Replies: 4
Views: 452

Re: nauthenticity of ἐλθέτω τὸ πνεῦμα σου τὸ ἅγιον ἐφʼ ἡμᾶς

Jeremias, New Testament Theology[ (1971) 194: "This petition for the spirit is certainly not original ...; the weak attestation, the difference in the position in which it appears, and above all its form, which varies from the structure of the other petitions, exclude this. It may, rather, derive fr...
by jgibson000
April 21st, 2016, 10:31 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: nauthenticity of ἐλθέτω τὸ πνεῦμα σου τὸ ἅγιον ἐφʼ ἡμᾶς καὶ
Replies: 4
Views: 452

nauthenticity of ἐλθέτω τὸ πνεῦμα σου τὸ ἅγιον ἐφʼ ἡμᾶς καὶ

One of the arguments that Jeremias brings forth to counter the claim made by Streeter and others that the variant ἐλθέτω τὸ πνεῦμα σου τὸ ἅγιον ἐφʼ ἡμᾶς καὶ καθαρισάτω ἡμᾶς is original to Luke's version of the LP is that its form/structure is strikingly different/varies considerably from that of the...
by jgibson000
March 30th, 2016, 4:22 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: "Hallowed be your name" as a doxology, not a petition
Replies: 9
Views: 729

"Hallowed be your name" as a doxology, not a petition

I have been reading an essay Norman Metzler entitled "The Lord's Prayer: Second Thoughts on the First Petition" (in In Authenticating the Words of Jesus, 187-202) in which he takes up and defends a claim made by Johannes Weiss, that the customary view that there are seven petitions in the Matthean V...
by jgibson000
March 18th, 2016, 8:57 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Deliver us from (the) evil..........one?
Replies: 2
Views: 339

Re: Deliver us from (the) evil..........one?

You might want to have a look my discussion of this petition in my book The Disciples' Prayer: The Prayer that Jesus Taught in Its Historical Context. (Fortress, 2015) There is reason to believe that the petition is for divine aid to be kept from doing evil.

Jeffrey
by jgibson000
May 30th, 2015, 9:30 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: New Book on the Lord's Prayer
Replies: 2
Views: 298

New Book on the Lord's Prayer

With Jonathan;s permission. I hope List members will be interested to know that Fortress Press has just published my new book on the Lord's (Disciples) Prayer -- which in many ways had its origins here on B-Greek in discussions of Matt. 6:13//Lk. 11:2.. Details on the book may be found here http://w...
by jgibson000
July 22nd, 2014, 3:08 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: the meaning of the aorist imperative in Matt. 6: 10//Lk. 11:
Replies: 3
Views: 1002

the meaning of the aorist imperative in Matt. 6: 10//Lk. 11:

As many here know, J. Jeremias and others have argued that the use of the aorist imperative form of the verb “to come” in the Kingdom petition in the Lord's Prayer (Matt. 6:10//Lk. 11:2) makes that petition a call for a once-only event that affects all history. But am I right in thinking, on the bas...