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by Jonathan Robie
July 17th, 2018, 9:31 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: τὸ δὲ σῶμα τοῦ Χριστοῦ at Colossians 2:17
Replies: 3
Views: 108

Re: τὸ δὲ σῶμα τοῦ Χριστοῦ at Colossians 2:17

Hi Brendon, First off, you really need to translate entire sentences to get any feel at all, and the syntax of the sentence is essential. Google Translate does not understand New Testament Greek and will give you silly answers. So let's start with a complete sentence: Μὴ οὖν τις ὑμᾶς κρινέτω ἐν βρώσ...
by Jonathan Robie
July 16th, 2018, 10:17 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Rendering imperfective into English (an English question?)
Replies: 6
Views: 281

Re: Rendering imperfective into English (an English question?)

Some grammars talk about different types of imperfects (conative, inceptive, etc.), but as I've been working through Mark, I'm finding Rodney Decker's approach (Temporal Deixis) to be working beautifully. Imperfects are background information to help us understand the story line better. Rijksbaron'...
by Jonathan Robie
July 15th, 2018, 1:31 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Rendering imperfective into English (an English question?)
Replies: 6
Views: 281

Re: Rendering imperfective into English (an English question?)

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by Jonathan Robie
July 12th, 2018, 3:53 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: "We have no such custom" as being contentious???
Replies: 8
Views: 243

Re: "We have no such custom" as being contentious???

Barry Hofstetter wrote:
July 12th, 2018, 3:26 pm
This is a good example of someone trying to use Greek grammar who doesn't know Greek.
Yup. And on B-Greek, ἡμεῖς τοιαύτην συνήθειαν οὐκ ἔχομεν.
by Jonathan Robie
July 12th, 2018, 12:09 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: "We have no such custom" as being contentious???
Replies: 8
Views: 243

Re: "We have no such custom" as being contentious???

Hi Greg, Note the Forum Rules at the top of the page: Forum rules Please quote the Greek text you are discussing directly in your post if it is reasonably short - do not ask people to look it up. This is not a beginner's forum, competence in Greek is assumed. We don't discuss English here. Could you...
by Jonathan Robie
July 11th, 2018, 8:30 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Tim 5:17 διπλῆς τιμῆς
Replies: 4
Views: 143

Re: 1 Tim 5:17 διπλῆς τιμῆς

timothy_p_mcmahon wrote:
July 10th, 2018, 6:55 pm
I've always taken it as both kinds of τιμη – honor and remuneration.
As opposed to twice the remuneration?
by Jonathan Robie
July 10th, 2018, 4:07 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Tim 5:17 διπλῆς τιμῆς
Replies: 4
Views: 143

1 Tim 5:17 διπλῆς τιμῆς

Οἱ καλῶς προεστῶτες πρεσβύτεροι Οἱ καλῶς προεστῶτες πρεσβύτεροι διπλῆς τιμῆς ἀξιούσθωσαν, μάλιστα οἱ κοπιῶντες ἐν λόγῳ καὶ διδασκαλίᾳ· ἀξιούσθωσαν, μάλιστα οἱ κοπιῶντες ἐν λόγῳ καὶ διδασκαλίᾳ· In context, τιμή seems to imply financial support as part of honoring them, especially when the earlier pa...
by Jonathan Robie
July 10th, 2018, 3:16 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 2 Cor 8:24 - main verb of ἐνδεικνύμενοι?
Replies: 14
Views: 414

Re: 2 Cor 8:24 - main verb of ἐνδεικνύμενοι?

Stephen Carlson wrote:
July 9th, 2018, 9:31 pm
Anacolutha in Paul is more common than one would assume and our exegetical tradition, including the creation of such categories as "imperatival participle," tends to obscure them.
I wonder why. It seems fundamentally important for understanding what is going on in these sentences.
by Jonathan Robie
July 10th, 2018, 1:42 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 2 Cor 8:24 - main verb of ἐνδεικνύμενοι?
Replies: 14
Views: 414

Re: 2 Cor 8:24 - main verb of ἐνδεικνύμενοι?

I can't read the Greek text in that article, which doesn't look like Unicode. Do I have to install a particular font? Maybe I've gotten too much practice reading pre-Unicode fonts, but the Greek didn't seem that difficult, and everything's cited so you can look up the Greek for yourself. But yes ex...