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by Jonathan Robie
August 20th, 2018, 12:58 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Translation of a Greek Sentence
Replies: 1
Views: 41

Re: Translation of a Greek Sentence

Is the word συντελεία rendered as “end” in the English translation, and the word τέλος as “finish,” or vice versa? I bet you can answer that question yourself if you step back to think. Let's start by dividing the sentence up. περὶ τοῦ τέλους ἐστὶ τὸ τῆς συντελείας σημαινόμενον. Which one describes...
by Jonathan Robie
August 20th, 2018, 10:22 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Construing the participle in 2 Corinthians 8:9
Replies: 7
Views: 177

Re: Construing the participle in 2 Corinthians 8:9

I think “parallelism” is the term Jonathan was looking for too, a structural parallelism of terms not grammar … Jonathan, you say this text has not been handled well in the English translations. So here’s one that tries to honor the parallel structure he outlined, even though the order needs to be ...
by Jonathan Robie
August 20th, 2018, 10:03 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hoping for real reading proficiency
Replies: 19
Views: 516

Re: Hoping for real reading proficiency

Much better, learn to ask them in Greek (Somewhere, Robie has a nice doc on questioning). Here is the one I think you are talking about: Asking Questions in Biblical Greek.pdf You can download it with this link . Jannaris also has a very useful chapter , which you can download at this link . Oddly,...
by Jonathan Robie
August 18th, 2018, 3:50 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Understanding copyright of personal greek translation work?
Replies: 20
Views: 2214

Re: Understanding copyright of personal greek translation work?

Stanley Porter writes an interesting article in his recent book "Linguistic Analysis of the Greek new Testament", its chapter 1, titled "Who owns the Greek Text of the New Testament? Issues that Promote and Hinder Further Study" I met Stan when James Tauber and I did a pre-conference workshop for t...
by Jonathan Robie
August 18th, 2018, 3:46 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Construing the participle in 2 Corinthians 8:9
Replies: 7
Views: 177

Re: Construing the participle in 2 Corinthians 8:9

IMHO, the only thing interesting in the syntax is the placement of πλούσιος ὤν after the verb ἐπτώχευσεν. Would this be a very dramatic way of creating a relative clause that contrasts Jesus' wealth by smashing the verb 'became poor' against the adjective 'wealthy'? I think this parallelism is at t...
by Jonathan Robie
August 17th, 2018, 10:24 am
Forum: Other
Topic: ETC: Where Orthography Affects the New Testament Text
Replies: 3
Views: 99

Re: ETC: Where Orthography Affects the New Testament Text

This is really cool. And another great example of useful open data for biblical studies.

Have people here been using the Amsterdam Database of New Testament Conjectural Emendation? What is it most useful for?
by Jonathan Robie
August 16th, 2018, 8:33 am
Forum: Greek Texts
Topic: Photius' Library, 17th cent. Type Script
Replies: 10
Views: 216

Re: Photius' Library, 17th cent. Type Script

Are there resources that provide transcriptions along with images for various periods? The link I added to my original reply has over a dozen such examples, ranging from the eighth to fifteenth century, but the resolution is not always good. For reference, it is http://bibletranslation.ws/down/liga...
by Jonathan Robie
August 16th, 2018, 7:47 am
Forum: Greek Texts
Topic: Photius' Library, 17th cent. Type Script
Replies: 10
Views: 216

Re: Photius' Library, 17th cent. Type Script

Cool!

I would like to get better at reading various historical Greek scripts. Are there resources that provide transcriptions along with images for various periods?
by Jonathan Robie
August 14th, 2018, 3:44 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Finding Old Greek-Latin Lexicons
Replies: 11
Views: 336

Re: Finding Old Greek-Latin Lexicons

I received the following helpful response from Eleanor Dickey:
Yes, they existed; there's a list of them (mixed with other stuff) in the back of my book Learning Latin the Ancient Way, and that book includes some examples of such lexica. More can be found in J. Kramer, Glossaria Bilinguia I and II.
by Jonathan Robie
August 13th, 2018, 12:11 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hoping for real reading proficiency
Replies: 19
Views: 516

Re: Hoping for real reading proficiency

The precise way of doing these sorts of things can vary, and will change as the student gains proficiency. The principle, however, is to engage in as many ways as possible with the language. That includes reading, writing, arithmetic (oops, not that one so much, sorry) ... Maybe a little arithmetic...