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by Barry Hofstetter
September 18th, 2018, 10:58 am
Forum: Resources
Topic: Free online courses for Greek and Latin
Replies: 0
Views: 26

Free online courses for Greek and Latin

Found here: http://www.open.edu/openlearn/history-the-arts/discovering-ancient-greek-and-latin/content-section-0?intro=1 I don't know how good these are, just reporting the existence thereof. Edit: took a closer look. It may have value helping people understand the nature of the languages and some o...
by Barry Hofstetter
September 18th, 2018, 10:57 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην
Replies: 25
Views: 637

Re: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην

Now, what articles or resources, preferably accessible online would you recommend for further study of this (of course anything by Dik is good, my second favorite classicist after Eleanor Dickey), and what is the best resource overall? My recommended resources are here: http://hypotyposeis.org/webl...
by Barry Hofstetter
September 17th, 2018, 7:03 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην
Replies: 25
Views: 637

Re: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην

τὸ περὶ οὗ, simply the subject, ὃ τοῦτό ἐστιν, the predicate, and then "the rest in order." You keep using the word "simply," but it does not mean what you think it means. See how well it matches Helma Dik's analysis of Greek word order. I would have to say that there is nothing here that suggests ...
by Barry Hofstetter
September 17th, 2018, 11:11 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην
Replies: 25
Views: 637

Re: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην

Demetrius, De eloquentia 199 Καὶ ὅλως τῇ φυσικῇ τάξει τῶν ὀνομάτων χρηστέον, ὡς τὸ Ἐπίδαμνός ἐστι πόλις ἐν δεξιᾷ ἐσπλέοντι εἰς τὸν Ἰόνιον κόλπον· πρῶτον μὲν γὰρ ὠνόμασται τὸ περὶ οὗ, δεύτερον δὲ ὃ τοῦτό ἐστιν, ὅτι πόλις, καὶ τὰ ἄλλα ἐφεξῆς. τὸ περὶ οὗ = topic = Randy's item relating to context ὃ το...
by Barry Hofstetter
September 17th, 2018, 7:20 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην
Replies: 25
Views: 637

Re: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην

On targums and Hebrew midrashic influence, see the response at original thread on Jn 8.25. On good Greek: Good Greek uses word order in nuanced Greek ways. As I write this I had just read Jam 3.8: τὴν δὲ γλῶσσαν οὐδεὶς δύναται ἀνθρώπων δαμάσαι· Excellent word order. first item relating to context, ...
by Barry Hofstetter
September 15th, 2018, 11:20 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: ἀγαπάω and φιλέω again...
Replies: 6
Views: 160

Re: ἀγαπάω and φιλέω again...

Just to add some fresh fuel to this long-burning fire, here's the abstract from J. A. L. Lee's recent note in Novum Testamentum 59 (2017): "The alternation of the words for “love” in John 21:15-17 is a long-standing puzzle that has defied solution. It is suggested in this note that ἀγαπῶ and φιλῶ c...
by Barry Hofstetter
September 15th, 2018, 10:22 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: ἀγαπάω and φιλέω again...
Replies: 6
Views: 160

ἀγαπάω and φιλέω again...

Still having fun in the Colloquia, and found this this morning: ἐγώ σε ἀγαπῶ, ἐγώ σε φιλῶ... Remind you of anything in the gospels, say John 21:15-17? The context here is a section on seeking reconciliation with a friend or relative. The Latin translation, the language being learned, says "ego te di...
by Barry Hofstetter
September 15th, 2018, 9:46 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην
Replies: 25
Views: 637

What is Good Greek?

I thought it best to split this into a new topic... Ναί yes, Stirling, I have long commented that John is good Greek and the most consistently good Greek in the Gospels. The question is deceptive among Gospel readers because John has a limited vocabulary and comes across as 'easy'. One explanation f...
by Barry Hofstetter
September 14th, 2018, 11:36 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: The negation of perfect verb forms
Replies: 25
Views: 642

Re: The negation of perfect verb forms

If indeed from εἴκω, "to have resembled, to have been like" becomes the completed or settled state represented by our English "seem." Excellent. I’ll take “completed or settled state” over “completed action.” That’s a big step in the right direction. :D The key words being "completed" and "settled."
by Barry Hofstetter
September 14th, 2018, 9:36 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: The negation of perfect verb forms
Replies: 25
Views: 642

Re: The negation of perfect verb forms

Stephen Carlson wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 11:12 pm
Barry Hofstetter wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 10:41 pm
Stephen Carlson wrote:
September 12th, 2018, 5:09 pm
Where’s the reference to a completed action?
For which verb that we've been discussing?
ἔοικεν
If indeed from εἴκω, "to have resembled, to have been like" becomes the completed or settled state represented by our English "seem."