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by MAubrey
September 11th, 2019, 1:27 pm
Forum: Books
Topic: New book on the Greek Article
Replies: 5
Views: 209

Re: New book on the Greek Article

Just spotted and ordered a new book called "The Article in post-classical Greek". It is published by SIL https://www.amazon.co.uk/Post-Classical-Greek-Publication-Translation-Textlinguistics/dp/1556714130/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=greek+article&qid=1568206546&s=books&sr=1-1 Wallace has given a blurb for ...
by MAubrey
September 1st, 2019, 5:41 pm
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 75
Views: 12074

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

Bringing this back to the theme of my OP - having surveyed more of the literature on this topic and having analyzed several Greek examples (below) - it seems as though the majority of non-past aorists in the bible are traditionally translated into English with either present perfect or simple prese...
by MAubrey
September 1st, 2019, 5:18 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: ὁ καὶ ...
Replies: 5
Views: 323

Re: ὁ καὶ ...

Here are a few more examples in the NT: Matthew 10:4 Σίμων ὁ Καναναῖος καὶ Ἰούδας ὁ Ἰσκαριώτης ὁ καὶ παραδοὺς αὐτόν . Acts 13:9 Σαῦλος δέ, ὁ καὶ Παῦλος , πλησθεὶς πνεύματος ἁγίου ἀτενίσας εἰς αὐτὸν 2 Corinthians 1:21–22 ὁ δὲ βεβαιῶν ἡμᾶς σὺν ὑμῖν εἰς Χριστὸν καὶ χρίσας ἡμᾶς θεός, ὁ καὶ σφραγισάμενος...
by MAubrey
September 1st, 2019, 5:15 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: ὁ καὶ ...
Replies: 5
Views: 323

Re: ὁ καὶ ...

This is the first time I have come across και occurring in this position. ὁ καὶ δηλώσας ἡμῖν τὴν ὑμῶν ἀγάπην ἐν πνεύματι. (Colossians 1:8) The sentence seems perfectly readable, however I am curious about the grammar. Is καὶ still simply acting as a coordinating conjunction? It is, for the lack of ...
by MAubrey
August 15th, 2019, 9:43 pm
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 75
Views: 12074

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

The introduction of terminology and concepts that are not formerly part of the discussion. Interaction with authors who seem to be inventing as they go along cherry picking bits and pieces from multiple authors who are not even using the same basic framework. So it all looks like a collage pasted t...
by MAubrey
August 4th, 2019, 6:55 pm
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 75
Views: 12074

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

However, in the context we can see that Jesus is already being betrayed by Judas. It's already happening, but will be completed in the future. What about 1 Thessalonians 2:16? Paul says: "... ἔφθασεν δὲ ἐπ᾽ αὐτοὺς (τοὺς Ἰουδαίας) ἡ ὀργὴ εἰς τέλος" NASB: But wrath has come upon them (the Jews) to th...
by MAubrey
August 4th, 2019, 6:38 pm
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 75
Views: 12074

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

[*] Griechische Grammatik zum Neuen Testament This is a systematic Greek grammar for the New Testament, covering most of what I find in BDR / BDF as well. Lots of examples. In German. Uses vocabulary and concepts more often encountered in Germany than in the States, so it's not always easy to quick...
by MAubrey
August 3rd, 2019, 4:32 pm
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 75
Views: 12074

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

The thing is: Everyone knew about examples like these before 1989 and everyone knew that there was a coersion of temporal reference in them. Grammars talked about them regularly, but just put them in different categories. The only thing that Porter really did was provide a different explanation for ...
by MAubrey
August 2nd, 2019, 11:47 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Participles in Ephesians 3:17
Replies: 4
Views: 1079

Re: Participles in Ephesians 3:17

Barry Hofstetter wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 1:02 pm
Perfect participles are practically adjectival, here describing the state that they are currently in, rooted and grounded (and proof that mixed metaphors are biblical).
Well said. Especially since they're middle!
by MAubrey
August 2nd, 2019, 11:41 pm
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 75
Views: 12074

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

For example, were there any verses in the bible that prior to 1990 had always been translated in the past tense, but then, thanks to the new understanding, the translation was updated to a proleptic future aorist? That should be a simple "yes or no" answer, with demonstrable examples if the answer ...

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