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by Stephen Carlson
December 14th, 2018, 10:14 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Relative or dependent clause?
Replies: 8
Views: 187

Re: Relative or dependent clause?

Stirling Bartholomew wrote:
December 14th, 2018, 6:18 pm
Probably doesn't directly address the original question.
Don't think so.
by Stephen Carlson
December 14th, 2018, 10:14 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Relative or dependent clause?
Replies: 8
Views: 187

Re: Relative or dependent clause?

Acts 28:8 looks like a better example of the phenomenon:
Acts 28:8b wrote:..., πρὸς ὃν ὁ Παῦλος ἐισελθὼν καὶ και προσευξάμενος ἐπιθεὶς τὰς χεῖρας αὐτῷ ἰάσατο αὐτόν.
Clearly the πρός must construe with ἐισελθών rather than ἰάσατο.
by Stephen Carlson
December 14th, 2018, 9:15 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Relative or dependent clause?
Replies: 8
Views: 187

Re: Relative or dependent clause?

I suppose the issue is whether a relative pronoun, or more precisely a prepositional phrase with a relative pronoun object, can be governed by a participle rather than a finite verb. I can't find any discussion in the grammars on this. Of course it can, and there are plenty of examples throughout G...
by Stephen Carlson
December 14th, 2018, 2:50 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Relative or dependent clause?
Replies: 8
Views: 187

Re: Relative or dependent clause?

I suppose the issue is whether a relative pronoun, or more precisely a prepositional phrase with a relative pronoun object, can be governed by a participle rather than a finite verb. I can't find any discussion in the grammars on this.
by Stephen Carlson
November 8th, 2018, 3:06 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Tim 1:7 - μὴ... μήτε
Replies: 9
Views: 504

Re: 1 Tim 1:7 - μὴ... μήτε

I think my issue with how this verse is rendered in English is that μὴ νοοῦντες doesn't seem to be as explicit the in governing the two following negations. The example in Mt 5:34 seems to be a good parallel. It is clear μὴ ὀμόσαι ὅλως is then further explained by the two parallel negations. So wou...
by Stephen Carlson
November 7th, 2018, 5:28 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Tim 1:7 - μὴ... μήτε
Replies: 9
Views: 504

Re: 1 Tim 1:7 - μὴ... μήτε

Davis Prickett wrote:
November 7th, 2018, 3:07 am
It seems to me that if this was to say "not knowing what they are talking about" it would simply be μὴ νοοῦντες λέγουσιν.
No, that would mean "not understanding they say"; you want μὴ νοοῦντες ἃ λέγουσιν for "not understanding what they are saying"
by Stephen Carlson
November 5th, 2018, 1:29 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: Subtle differences between paired Greek words
Replies: 5
Views: 307

Re: Subtle differences between paired Greek words

All of these seem fruitful for a proper lexical study. I don't know if any have been done.

(Some of your examples seem to involve homonymity in the English glosses, however.)
by Stephen Carlson
November 5th, 2018, 1:28 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: εθελω vs θελω
Replies: 1
Views: 111

Re: εθελω vs θελω

The initial ἐ- of ἔθελω is not an augment but actually original (see the Attic form). In some Ionic dialects, this verb lost its initial vowel.
by Stephen Carlson
November 3rd, 2018, 9:15 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: The Article and the Genitive Case
Replies: 2
Views: 205

Re: The Article and the Genitive Case

Add "Apollonius' Canon" to your search terms.
by Stephen Carlson
October 31st, 2018, 7:58 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Interpreting "ὑπερεντυγχάνει" and "ἐντυγχάνει ὑπὲρ" in Romans 8?
Replies: 5
Views: 276

Re: Interpreting "ὑπερεντυγχάνει" and "ἐντυγχάνει ὑπὲρ" in Romans 8?

There could be word play here. Beyond appreciating it as a reader, rendering it into the English is more of an issue for the translator and translation technique / philosophy. That said, translating ὑπερεντυγχάνει as "intercedes" and as ἐντυγχάνει ὑπέρ "falls in between" doesn't really exploit the w...