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by RandallButh
September 23rd, 2017, 1:26 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Greek Grammar Book Order for Self Learning
Replies: 15
Views: 353

Re: Greek Grammar Book Order for Self Learning

If you interview 10 people who have been reading ancient Greek for decades and asked them about their path. You'll discover that
... few of them could readily describe what they did yesterday, in Greek, or describe what they read yesterday in Greek, in Greek.
by RandallButh
September 22nd, 2017, 2:07 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Greek Grammar Book Order for Self Learning
Replies: 15
Views: 353

Re: Greek Grammar Book Order for Self Learning

Jonathan Robie: I think part of the problem is that there just aren't enough good resources for self-learners that take this approach. ... LKG was really the first resource along these lines. Thanks for producing it. I think that the fact that the original list was produced without second thought o...
by RandallButh
September 21st, 2017, 1:28 pm
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Greek Grammar Book Order for Self Learning
Replies: 15
Views: 353

Re: Greek Grammar Book Order for Self Learning

I did notice that the original list was heavily, and only, "grammar translation" in approach. NT Studies seem to ignore the advice of the language specialists. It's probably a simple Inertia Factor, but that doesn't make it acceptable or excusable. For example, the American Council for the Teaching ...
by RandallButh
September 20th, 2017, 10:24 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Grammaticalization of tense?
Replies: 9
Views: 219

Re: Grammaticalization of tense?

What Mike said is the proper starting point. Grammaticalization refers to a language incorporating something into the morphological or syntactical marking system(s) in the language. Tense is specifically related to temporal categories. For example, the augment in Greek is a temporal grammaticalizati...
by RandallButh
August 29th, 2017, 10:07 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: τοῦτό ἐστιν τὸ σῶμά μου
Replies: 14
Views: 750

Re: τοῦτό ἐστιν τὸ σῶμά μου

True. And you explained this well.
except that δούς is an aorist, too.
by RandallButh
August 29th, 2017, 6:09 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: τοῦτό ἐστιν τὸ σῶμά μου
Replies: 14
Views: 750

Re: τοῦτό ἐστιν τὸ σῶμά μου

It helps to repeat the aorist forms more than once and then to summarize with the continuative:

δοῦναι δοῦναι δοῦναι --- διδόναι

to give, to give to give --- to be giving



δοὐς, δούς, δούς ––– διδούς

having given, given, given --- be giving
by RandallButh
August 6th, 2017, 3:50 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: ἰάομαι Why middle?
Replies: 8
Views: 733

Re: ἰάομαι Why middle?

Just a couple of comments. 1. but according to LSJ in imperfective forms it means "try to cure, treat", not actually heal. That special meaning is a 'red herring' (distraction) and a function of the imperfect rather than the lexeme. Consider ζητεῖν and ζητῆσαι. The imperfect will imply that they did...
by RandallButh
July 30th, 2017, 2:48 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: ἀλλὰ in the apodosis - memory of the dead
Replies: 19
Views: 1064

Re: ἀλλὰ in the apodosis - memory of the dead

wondering if Simon Dik's Functionalism is really that useful for discussing the topic at hand. Yes and no. Yes--because it integrates and shows how pragmatic decisions of an author and language system interact with basic syntax in a principled system. [[This is a watershed distinction from Chomskia...
by RandallButh
July 20th, 2017, 12:39 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Degrees in Koine
Replies: 21
Views: 1225

Re: Degrees in Koine

ναί. πῶς γὰρ οὔ!

καὶ ἐρωτῶ σε εἰ ἔτι λαλεῖς ἐν US-seminary προφοφᾶι;
by RandallButh
July 15th, 2017, 3:03 am
Forum: Composition based on ancient texts
Topic: You go first! After you!
Replies: 11
Views: 807

Re: You go first! After you!

BTW, the principal parts of ἅγω may be sung to the tune of "Good King Wenceslas." Try it: ἄγω, ἄξω, ἤγαγον, ἥχα, ἤγμαι, ἤχθην. :lol: In the neighborhood of 'B', Mi mi mi...: that is not how I would learn, - if I wanted fluency use each one in its own place, - then you have it nat'rally. (same tune)