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by RandallButh
February 21st, 2019, 2:01 am
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο
Replies: 22
Views: 466

Re: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο

Thank you for the clarification. It appears that application of his data in this forum has been extrapolated beyond the source(s). which Siebenthal considers good standard ancient Greek: ἐγένετο . . . That turned the thread into a direction not claimed by Siebenthal. However, the bigger question for...
by RandallButh
February 18th, 2019, 1:21 am
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο
Replies: 22
Views: 466

Re: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο

He then cites NT texts for ἐγένετο and Herodotus for συνέβη.
Good quote showing a hilarious/classic example of circular reasoning:
"If "A" is a standard structure in Greek outside the NT, we would prove this by quoting NT examples."
by RandallButh
February 16th, 2019, 5:15 am
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο
Replies: 22
Views: 466

Re: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο

> But I am looking at this form, which Siebenthal considers good standard ancient Greek: ἐγένετο + Adverbial + καί (optional) + infinitive clause Still, Luke may well be using the more standard ancient Greek form to echo the LXX. two points: 1. Where are the examples of standard Greek? 2. I hear th...
by RandallButh
February 14th, 2019, 11:01 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Minimal Pairs for Greek Phonology
Replies: 19
Views: 3104

Re: Minimal Pairs for Greek Phonology

Just to clarify, by "modern oriental pronunciation" you mean Sephardic (Israeli)? Partially. Sort of. Most Europeans and NorthAmericans use a 5-vowel "Sefardi" pronunciation, but without ʕayin and ħet . The true oriental pronunciation includes those two consonants, a voiced pharyngeal fricative and...
by RandallButh
February 13th, 2019, 10:39 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Minimal Pairs for Greek Phonology
Replies: 19
Views: 3104

Re: Minimal Pairs for Greek Phonology

Luis, χαίρειν The point was severalfold: For Hebrew the modern oriental pronunciation is recommended. Yes, modern Hebrew helps with biblical fluency and 100% of modern morphology transfers to biblical morphology. The fact that no other language does this is anecdotal. When a person has internalized ...
by RandallButh
February 10th, 2019, 5:44 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Minimal Pairs for Greek Phonology
Replies: 19
Views: 3104

Re: Minimal Pairs for Greek Phonology

I am not sure that the above will result in phonologies, but rather graphologies. On Greek, do you have ει set to ι? If not, why not? Do you have αι set to ε? If not why not? Do you have ω set to ο? If not, why not? Do you have οι set to υ? If not, why not? In English do you pronounce "knight" as [k...
by RandallButh
February 6th, 2019, 12:44 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: Deuteronomy 5:30
Replies: 15
Views: 480

Re: Deuteronomy 5:30

This also seen in the names, such as Abraham named for אבהמון -Ἀγαμέμνων (Gen 17:5) also his change of name Εὕραμα [Αβραμ] > Εὕρεμα [Αβρααμ]
not.
οὔ.
לא.
ولا.
אני מצטער אבל בעברית זה פשות שטויות
by RandallButh
February 1st, 2019, 8:34 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: "I just don't think it makes you a better exegete ... " Theology, exegesis, and Learning Koine Greek Communicatively
Replies: 25
Views: 1267

Re: "I just don't think it makes you a better exegete ... " Theology, exegesis, and Learning Koine Greek Communicatively

The severe time constraints in most seminaries make it all but impossible to properly learn a language with the little time they allocate to the Biblical languages. Actually, it is impossible to properly learn a biblical language or any languagge at a seminary. Full stop. There is insufficient time...
by RandallButh
January 27th, 2019, 6:47 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: "I just don't think it makes you a better exegete ... " Theology, exegesis, and Learning Koine Greek Communicatively
Replies: 25
Views: 1267

Re: "I just don't think it makes you a better exegete ... " Theology, exegesis, and Learning Koine Greek Communicatively

Learning through explicit instruction, such as studying grammatical rules, can help with language acquisition. Learning those rules better through composition can help acquisition. Explicit instruction is more useful when it serves as a consolidation of implicit understanding. For many learners, be...
by RandallButh
January 9th, 2019, 3:50 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: "I just don't think it makes you a better exegete ... " Theology, exegesis, and Learning Koine Greek Communicatively
Replies: 25
Views: 1267

Re: "I just don't think it makes you a better exegete ... " Theology, exegesis, and Learning Koine Greek Communicatively

I am not suggesting that exegesis and SLA must be an either/or decision. But the most vocal SLA promoters have been trashing exegesis without mercy until some of us have grown weary of it. Trashing bad exegesis, I think. Texts need to be read and interpreted. Linguistic metalanguage is of very limi...