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by RandallButh
October 14th, 2018, 4:46 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Attic Greek?
Replies: 2
Views: 80

Re: Attic Greek?

I will add another perspective, maybe a third point on a triangle. Attic Greek and Koine Greek are the same language and tightly connected dialects. It doesn't matter where one starts. However, a student should know that in the field of Classics and also NT, most of the classes do not teach the lang...
by RandallButh
October 3rd, 2018, 2:54 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Workbook Questions Clarification
Replies: 19
Views: 845

Re: Workbook Questions Clarification

זה הוא

εὕρηκας αὐτό.

ἀναγνόντι τί σοι δοκεῖ;
by RandallButh
September 29th, 2018, 2:26 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Workbook Questions Clarification
Replies: 19
Views: 845

Re: Workbook Questions Clarification

This brings up a fundamental question, of why anyone starts to learn Koine or Biblical Greek rather than Modern Greek - surely it's not that we want to communicate with Greek speakers, but that we want to read the GNT and let the GNT communicate to us. These are basic questions that are often menti...
by RandallButh
September 28th, 2018, 2:14 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Understanding the usage of +/- in linguistic papers?
Replies: 16
Views: 615

Re: Understanding the usage of +/- in linguistic papers?

OK. I got it. Meaning, OK, I understand. Present. Now. Hebrew does this even more than English. ידעתי. אני יודע. I know. חפצתי לשמוע דבר חדש "I want to hear something new." More literally in Hebrew-English, "I wanted to hear something new." there is a class of verbs that can do this in Hebrew that m...
by RandallButh
September 27th, 2018, 6:40 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Workbook Questions Clarification
Replies: 19
Views: 845

Re: Workbook Questions Clarification

You may have missed another point: It is important to think, speak, write and communicate in the language in order to internalize it. Yes, speaking, too, because it forces rapid processing of the language, which forces internalization, and because human reading and cognition goes through a "phonolog...
by RandallButh
September 27th, 2018, 4:14 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Understanding the usage of +/- in linguistic papers?
Replies: 16
Views: 615

Re: Understanding the usage of +/- in linguistic papers?

To speak as simply as possible: There is no such thing as a "spatially remote perfective" aspect or "spatially remote imperfective aspect." Spatial remoteness is a figment of imagination, where a metaphor "spatial remoteness" has been been given ontological status as a defining feature based on some...
by RandallButh
September 17th, 2018, 8:11 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην
Replies: 27
Views: 1256

Re: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην

Demetrius, De eloquentia 199 Καὶ ὅλως τῇ φυσικῇ τάξει τῶν ὀνομάτων χρηστέον, ὡς τὸ Ἐπίδαμνός ἐστι πόλις ἐν δεξιᾷ ἐσπλέοντι εἰς τὸν Ἰόνιον κόλπον· πρῶτον μὲν γὰρ ὠνόμασται τὸ περὶ οὗ, δεύτερον δὲ ὃ τοῦτό ἐστιν, ὅτι πόλις, καὶ τὰ ἄλλα ἐφεξῆς. τὸ περὶ οὗ = topic = Randy's item relating to context ὃ το...
by RandallButh
September 17th, 2018, 8:10 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην
Replies: 27
Views: 1256

Re: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην

Demetrius, De eloquentia 199 Καὶ ὅλως τῇ φυσικῇ τάξει τῶν ὀνομάτων χρηστέον, ὡς τὸ Ἐπίδαμνός ἐστι πόλις ἐν δεξιᾷ ἐσπλέοντι εἰς τὸν Ἰόνιον κόλπον· πρῶτον μὲν γὰρ ὠνόμασται τὸ περὶ οὗ, δεύτερον δὲ ὃ τοῦτό ἐστιν, ὅτι πόλις, καὶ τὰ ἄλλα ἐφεξῆς. τὸ περὶ οὗ = topic = Randy's item relating to context ὃ το...
by RandallButh
September 17th, 2018, 7:52 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην
Replies: 27
Views: 1256

Re: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην

Ancients discussed simple structures vs. convoluted "periodic" structures. They assumed Greek word order conventions and read whatever the author wrote. See Demetrios. The gospels are generally in "simple" sentences. For "periodic (elaborate)" see Luke 1.1-4, Acts 1.1-4 and many examples in Hebrews,...
by RandallButh
September 16th, 2018, 9:31 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην
Replies: 27
Views: 1256

Re: John 8:25 and the adverbial accusative την αρχην

On targums and Hebrew midrashic influence, see the response at original thread on Jn 8.25. On good Greek: Good Greek uses word order in nuanced Greek ways. As I write this I had just read Jam 3.8: τὴν δὲ γλῶσσαν οὐδεὶς δύναται ἀνθρώπων δαμάσαι· Excellent word order. first item relating to context, ...