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by Bill Ross
March 23rd, 2019, 12:56 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: In Romans 1:7, "called to be saints" or "invited, holy"?
Replies: 11
Views: 1748

Re: In Romans 1:7, "called to be saints" or "invited, holy"?

Okay, I see, there is no allusion to Isaiah. But what about the original question: These are typical translations: "called saints" "called [to be] saints" What about this?: "[to the] invited, holy [ones]"? Note: My thought is that "called to be saints" sounds like a task set before them. "Called sai...
by Bill Ross
March 23rd, 2019, 12:14 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: In Romans 1:7, "called to be saints" or "invited, holy"?
Replies: 11
Views: 1748

Re: In Romans 1:7, "called to be saints" or "invited, holy"?

I came across this which might be being alluded to: 62:12 καὶ καλέσει αὐτὸν λαὸν ἅγιον λελυτρωμένον ὑπὸ κυρίου σὺ δὲ κληθήσῃ ἐπιζητουμένη πόλις καὶ οὐκ ἐγκαταλελειμμένη If so, what is the sense of "call" here? Name? As in "I will name the people holy [ones]"? Let's talk about Greek words, not Engli...
by Bill Ross
March 22nd, 2019, 3:40 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: In Romans 1:7, "called to be saints" or "invited, holy"?
Replies: 11
Views: 1748

Re: In Romans 1:7, "called to be saints" or "invited, holy"?

I came across this which might be being alluded to:
62:12 καὶ καλέσει αὐτὸν λαὸν ἅγιον λελυτρωμένον ὑπὸ κυρίου σὺ δὲ κληθήσῃ ἐπιζητουμένη πόλις καὶ οὐκ ἐγκαταλελειμμένη
If so, what is the sense of "call" here? Name? As in "I will name the people holy [ones]"?
by Bill Ross
March 17th, 2019, 1:04 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: In Romans 1:7, "called to be saints" or "invited, holy"?
Replies: 11
Views: 1748

In Romans 1:7, "called to be saints" or "invited, holy"?

[Rom 1:7 MGNT] (7) πᾶσιν τοῖς οὖσιν ἐν Ῥώμῃ ἀγαπητοῖς θεοῦ κλητοῖς ἁγίοις χάρις ὑμῖν καὶ εἰρήνη ἀπὸ θεοῦ πατρὸς ἡμῶν καὶ κυρίου Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ
"called to be saints"

or, "invited, holy"?

Or perhaps,

"invited, holy-men"?

Or,

"invited holy-men"?
by Bill Ross
March 17th, 2019, 10:43 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: In Hebrews 10:13 what is the effect of the subjunctive?
Replies: 2
Views: 626

In Hebrews 10:13 what is the effect of the subjunctive?

mGNT Hebrews 10:13 τὸ λοιπὸν ἐκδεχόμενος ἕως τεθῶσιν οἱ ἐχθροὶ αὐτοῦ ὑποπόδιον τῶν ποδῶν αὐτοῦ What is the purpose of the subjunctive (τεθῶσιν)? Does it suggest "From then on to wait until it is time for the setting of his enemies under his feet like a footstool" rather than "to wait until his enem...
by Bill Ross
March 17th, 2019, 7:05 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: In 1 Peter 3:22 is the subjugation complete or ongoing?
Replies: 5
Views: 1079

Re: In 1 Peter 3:22 is the subjugation complete or ongoing?

Can you explain what you're really getting at? Your question appears to be asking whether an aorist is a present or an aorist. From what I understand, which is limited, an aorist doesn't always include a time element (which is why it is called "aorist") and aorist participles never include a time e...
by Bill Ross
March 16th, 2019, 11:12 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: In 1 Peter 3:22 is the subjugation complete or ongoing?
Replies: 5
Views: 1079

In 1 Peter 3:22 is the subjugation complete or ongoing?

1 Peter 3:22 ὅς ἐστιν ἐν δεξιᾷ τοῦ θεοῦ πορευθεὶς εἰς οὐρανόν ὑποταγέντων αὐτῷ ἀγγέλων καὶ ἐξουσιῶν καὶ δυνάμεων
Is the aorist participle saying the angels are currently being subjected or that their subjugation was complete?

Note:
http://www.ntgreek.org/pdf/adverbial_participles.pdf
by Bill Ross
March 16th, 2019, 11:00 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: In Revelation 11:15 to whom does βασιλεύσει refer?
Replies: 5
Views: 1068

Re: In Revelation 11:15 to whom does βασιλεύσει refer?

Let me start over... In Revelation 11:15 who is the subject of βασιλεύσει?: Revelation 11:15 καὶ ὁ ἕβδομος ἄγγελος ἐσάλπισεν καὶ ἐγένοντο φωναὶ μεγάλαι ἐν τῷ οὐρανῷ λέγοντες ἐγένετο ἡ βασιλεία τοῦ κόσμου τοῦ κυρίου ἡμῶν καὶ τοῦ Χριστοῦ αὐτοῦ καὶ βασιλεύσει εἰς τοὺς αἰῶνας τῶν αἰώνων Sorry to have ov...
by Bill Ross
March 15th, 2019, 8:53 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: In Philippians 2:2 what does the second κατα imply?
Replies: 7
Views: 1282

Re: In Ephesians 2:2 what does the second κατα imply?

It's Eph 2:2... The two prepositional phrases are coordinate, and not in apposition. By that I think you mean this: "The Philippians' behavior is according to τὸν αἰῶνα which coordinates with τὸν ἄρχοντα τῆς ἐξουσίας τοῦ ἀέρος τοῦ πνεύματος." So are τὸν αἰῶνα and τὸν ἄρχοντα different entities that...

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