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by Eeli Kaikkonen
February 14th, 2018, 5:57 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: How to Identify a Permissive/Causative Middle Voice Verb?
Replies: 13
Views: 2314

Re: How to Identify a Permissive/Causative Middle Voice Verb?

But I would submit that this exercise in semantics is beside point of the middle, which is in fact to deprofile the agent. Is it really "besides the point"? But you're right about its function in discourse. Another misused label, infamous in this forum, is "divine passive". Basically it's nothing b...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
February 12th, 2018, 4:18 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: How to Identify a Permissive/Causative Middle Voice Verb?
Replies: 13
Views: 2314

Re: How to Identify a Permissive/Causative Middle Voice Verb?

is not a “true middle” This reflects inadequate understanding of the Koine voice system. Basically at the core of the meaning of the middle voice (or even middle-passive or mediopassive voice!) is "subject-affectedness". The words which can't easily be interpreted through this framework are very ra...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
February 12th, 2018, 4:05 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: How to Identify a Permissive/Causative Middle Voice Verb?
Replies: 13
Views: 2314

Re: How to Identify a Permissive/Causative Middle Voice Verb?

I agree with other criticisms here. Also it's good to be careful about how these statements are express, both when saying them and when seeing/hearing them. A good, responsible exegete would never say "this is a permissive middle, therefore...". Unfortunately you will often see even good exegetes ex...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
February 7th, 2018, 4:53 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: 1 Corinthians 12:4-5 δὲ vs καὶ
Replies: 16
Views: 2453

Re: 1 Corinthians 12:4-5 δὲ vs καὶ

... but if we keep reading, the very next δὲ introduces text which is analyzed by the editor[1] as parenthetical which means δὲ introduces subordination . On the other hand the next καὶ introduces text that moves the story forward but it doesn't introduce a new scene. Real text is often more comple...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
February 5th, 2018, 4:44 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: 1 Corinthians 12:4-5 δὲ vs καὶ
Replies: 16
Views: 2453

Re: 1 Corinthians 12:4-5 δὲ vs καὶ

serunge wrote:
February 5th, 2018, 3:04 pm
If I had to do it over again
Waiting for the second edition...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
January 15th, 2018, 4:12 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: πέμψαντός in J. 6.38?
Replies: 32
Views: 3931

Re: πέμψαντός in J. 6.38?

If I understood correctly, the passages in boldface font in your previous posts were someone else's and you want to know what we think about it. Right? Well, here's what I think about it: it's nonsense. Someone tries to prove his opinion by cleverly confusing us with verbose linguistically-sounding ...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
January 11th, 2018, 5:14 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: πέμψαντός in J. 6.38?
Replies: 32
Views: 3931

Re: πέμψαντός in J. 6.38?

On what textual basis are y'all asserting that the aorist participle πέμψαντός is modifying ποιῶ and not καταβέβηκα? That is, when I come to a specific text how would I tell if the participle is functioning substantivally or verbally? I think nobody said it is "modifying" ποιῶ. "τοῦ πέμψαντός με" w...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
January 9th, 2018, 5:45 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Question on Mt. 7:22
Replies: 29
Views: 3935

Re: Question on Mt. 7:22

As a one who has for a long time followed this forum I believe that everyone here agrees with Jonathan and Barry. It's very difficult to answer to you because you don't believe those who know quite much Greek, here or elsewhere. You seem to have have faulty presuppositions and methodologies and it's...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
December 13th, 2017, 7:12 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: Can ἄνθρωπος in the singular refer to people in general?
Replies: 10
Views: 1809

Re: Can ἄνθρωπος in the singular refer to people in general?

Mike, from the same Epictetus example, wouldn't you also have to say the same about ζῷον? 'A man is an animal' or 'humanity are animals'; so 'ζῷον: animal, animals'; then do we need to add the collective/abstract to every word? 'καθέδρα: chair; chairkind', etc? It seems to me the word just means 'p...