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by Eeli Kaikkonen
March 3rd, 2012, 1:07 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: The Historical Present: φησί
Replies: 16
Views: 8246

Re: The Historical Present· φησί

Louis L Sorenson wrote: But φημί a terminative (telic) verb, is not it?
I think it is, but is it a problem? Telic verbs like λεγω (and φημί) can be used as HP, atelic like ειμι can't.
by Eeli Kaikkonen
March 3rd, 2012, 12:28 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: The Historical Present: φησί
Replies: 16
Views: 8246

Re: The Historical Present

Rijksbaron (The Syntax and Semantics of the Verb...) is worth quoting in length. Strictly speaking this historic use conflicts with the fundamental value(s) of the present indicative (cp. § 3): unlike the imperfect and aorist indicative, the present indicative is, 'at heart', not suitable for the ex...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
March 3rd, 2012, 12:07 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: The Historical Present: φησί
Replies: 16
Views: 8246

Re: The Historical Present· φησί

Louis L Sorenson wrote:There is a plethora of entries on this subject in the B-Greek archives http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/b-greek/, but none on the new forum.
... except The Aspect of Historical Present 'Against the Grain' .
by Eeli Kaikkonen
March 2nd, 2012, 11:14 am
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: Word-Study Fallacies
Replies: 5
Views: 2687

Word-Study Fallacies

I just found McMaster Journal of Theology and Ministry online, and in Vol. 12 an interesting article "Hebrew and Greek Word-Study Fallacies" by Benjamin Baxter. Everyone here should already know what word-study fallacies are, but if you don't, this article could be a good (free!) place to start. It ...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
February 29th, 2012, 2:06 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Augment and Aspect
Replies: 7
Views: 3511

Re: Augment and Aspect

I wonder what the difference between Campbell's notion of remoteness and the view that the augment marks verb forms as prototypically, but not categorically, past? This is near to upper limit of my understanding, so I may be wrong, but... Campbell tries to find a rule without exceptions and thinks ...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
February 29th, 2012, 10:50 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Augment and Aspect
Replies: 7
Views: 3511

Re: Augment and Aspect

I know Decker states that the imperfect is a remote tense-form because it provides background information while the aorist provides the main story line. This understanding won't work if the augment on the aorist also marks remoteness as you state that Campbell holds. Campbell says: "... while tradi...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
February 28th, 2012, 6:13 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Restored Koine in nontechnical terms
Replies: 12
Views: 16231

Re: Restored Koine in nontechnical terms

So something like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CptsmJ5PDos I'm a native Finnish speaker, and as mentioned in the video, we also have u-psilon ('y' in Finnish, not u or u-umlaut). However, the sound may be a bit different from the French one, although it's surely quite close to the German on...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
February 25th, 2012, 7:16 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: verbal aspect (split from Beginner's Forum)
Replies: 44
Views: 13011

Re: verbal aspect (split from Beginner's Forum)

Sorry, Mike. I should have read the subforum line more carefully before commenting on Alex's fine answer to Eeli's question. Mark is now more humble than I was. Thanks for bearing with me and my, hmm, direct comment... And now we can get back to the subject. Yes, Johnson's article isn't, and isn't ...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
February 25th, 2012, 2:13 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: verbal aspect (split from Beginner's Forum)
Replies: 44
Views: 13011

Re: verbal aspect (split from Beginner's Forum)

ἔγραψεν ὁ Ἀλέχαδνρος: The Greek student is probably better advised to read as much Greek as possible rather than a study of others' studies of the Greek... I agree with what you say here, but with one important caveat. I would remove the word “probably.” To bring my ramblings to an end - if not a c...
by Eeli Kaikkonen
February 25th, 2012, 6:12 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: verbal aspect (split from Beginner's Forum)
Replies: 44
Views: 13011

Re: verbal aspect (split from Beginner's Forum)

I don't want to start another topic on aspect, so I continue here. I found an interesting article: http://digitalcommons.liberty.edu/honors/77/. "This study surveys the works of the leading contributors in this field and offers critiques of their major points. The subject matter is divided into thre...

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