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by KimmoHuovila
August 7th, 2011, 8:58 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Phil 1:14 ἐν κυρίῳ
Replies: 30
Views: 4059

Re: Phil 1:14

I realize quite a few expositors take the dative of τοῖς δεσμοῖς as expressing the source of confidence ('because of my chains they have confidence'). Is this a viable option? Does a dative behave this way with πέποιθα?
by KimmoHuovila
August 7th, 2011, 8:40 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Phil 1:14 ἐν κυρίῳ
Replies: 30
Views: 4059

Re: Phil 1:14

Also perhaps worth noting is that H A W Meyer does not regard ἐν κυρίῳ as fronted for "emphasis" but " placed first as the correlative of the ἐν Χριστ., ver. 13". He does not make ἐν κυρίῳ modify the verb only, but the whole clause πεποιθότας τοῖς δεσμοῖς μου. Presumably this would come out as "bec...
by KimmoHuovila
August 6th, 2011, 2:34 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Phil 1:14 ἐν κυρίῳ
Replies: 30
Views: 4059

Re: Phil 1:14

Jason, Yes, I understand what you are saying about the adverbials. However, ἀδελφός is rarely qualified by any of these when used of a fellow believer. I didn't mention adverbials. I stated that this is an adjectival phrase. "the brothers" - which brothers? - "the ones in the Lord" In classical Gre...
by KimmoHuovila
August 6th, 2011, 10:48 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Phil 1:14 ἐν κυρίῳ
Replies: 30
Views: 4059

Re: Phil 1:14

Stephen, You are right. Thanks for the correction. I should have linked ἐν κυρίῳ with what follows, not limited to πεποιθότας, as I gave initially two options. Your translation does not specifically mark "in the Lord" as focal, though. Not that translations always should mark foci, but here we are t...
by KimmoHuovila
August 6th, 2011, 10:20 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Phil 1:14 ἐν κυρίῳ
Replies: 30
Views: 4059

Re: Phil 1:14

But what about similar expressions throughout the Greek text? Does that not have any importance to you? Sure. That's precisely why I looked at the expression ἀδελφος ἐν Κυρίῳ (and found it to be rare, at least within the NT). Which way do you think similar expressions throughout the Greek text argu...
by KimmoHuovila
August 6th, 2011, 9:24 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Phil 1:14 ἐν κυρίῳ
Replies: 30
Views: 4059

Re: Phil 1:14

David, You don't think πίστος ἐν κυρίῳ can mean 'believing in the Lord'? Jason, My point is to look at arguments and implications of choosing to associate ἐν κυρίῳ either with the preceding or the following. In either case they are Christian brothers, as you notice. Tony, Many commentators consider ...
by KimmoHuovila
August 5th, 2011, 11:08 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Phil 1:14 ἐν κυρίῳ
Replies: 30
Views: 4059

Re: Phil 1:14

No, I do think τῶν ἀδελφών ἐν κυρίῳ is an option. I am just trying to look at the question from different points of view. Do you think the other option (ἐν κυρίῳ πεποιθότας) is dead? Do you think in Col 1:2 ἐν Χριστῷ could go with πιστοῖς instead of ἀδελφοῖς, thus making it into less of a parallel? ...
by KimmoHuovila
August 5th, 2011, 7:56 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Phil 1:14 ἐν κυρίῳ
Replies: 30
Views: 4059

Phil 1:14 ἐν κυρίῳ

καὶ τοὺς πλείονας τῶν ἀδελφών ἐν κυρίῳ πεποιθότας τοῖς δεσμοῖς μου How is ἐν κυρίῳ to be taken? If we take it with τῶν ἀδελφών, any guesses as to motivation to use such a relatively rare collocation? What discourse reason might there be for the extra baggage of ἐν κυρίῳ when it seems looking at how ...
by KimmoHuovila
August 2nd, 2011, 6:04 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Bounded and Unbounded ACTIONS in Fanning
Replies: 3
Views: 2222

Re: Bounded and Unbounded ACTIONS in Fanning

Jake, We are dealing with aspectual nesting here. Fanning deals with the same using Aktionsart for the inner layer and aspect for the outer layer. However, he does not have good theoretical tools to deal with more than two layers, though he seems at times to be aware of the problem. Let me illustrat...
by KimmoHuovila
July 11th, 2011, 2:24 pm
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: Religious literature
Replies: 1
Views: 1338

Religious literature

Are there examples of religious fiction written in Koine or Classical Greek? By religious fiction I mean literature that is 1) religious in its purpose, that is it has some religious function for a religious group (I don't expect any official status – religiously edifying literature is included) and...

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