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by refe
June 13th, 2011, 10:16 am
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Teaching Greek to Kids
Replies: 21
Views: 4546

Teaching Greek to Kids

Does anyone here have any experience teaching New Testament Greek to kids? A good friend of mine pastors a church and for Sunday school teaches them to read the Gospel of John in Greek. He's asked me to take the older kids so that they can go further in their learning without having to keep going ov...
by refe
June 9th, 2011, 10:55 am
Forum: Seen on the Web
Topic: Beginning to Think in Greek
Replies: 1
Views: 469

Re: Beginning to Think in Greek

I love it! I'm not sure I'm quite there yet - sometimes I think I am, and then catch my mind slowly pulling the text back down into English translation like a hidden current. I have the most difficulty with the New Testament. The English translations are already so present in my mind after reading a...
by refe
June 7th, 2011, 11:34 am
Forum: Resources
Topic: Best Greek NT Commentaries
Replies: 13
Views: 4699

Best Greek NT Commentaries

I believe it was Carl Conrad who commented in another thread about the way newer commentaries don't often bother to deal directly with the Greek and instead only provide English translations, perhaps based on an assumption that most readers won't have the competency to understand the Greek text if d...
by refe
June 6th, 2011, 12:42 pm
Forum: Seen on the Web
Topic: Reading Greek beyond the basics: Saturation style
Replies: 12
Views: 1896

Re: Reading Greek beyond the basics: Saturation style

1) I have found over the years that I often end up looking up a word I know perfectly well, because it doesn't fit at all into the context I'm reading. That's because it's being used in a sense with which I am unfamiliar – it's an old friend in a new guise. The solution is lots of reading practice,...
by refe
June 6th, 2011, 12:01 pm
Forum: Seen on the Web
Topic: Reading Greek beyond the basics: Saturation style
Replies: 12
Views: 1896

Re: Reading Greek beyond the basics: Saturation style

Here is my system. It is very similar to what has already been posted, but I actually put it together for studying the Apostolic Fathers collection. Using it for the NT would only require ignoring a few of the smaller steps. 1. Pre-emptive Vocabulary Attack a. Focus on mastering the vocab of one boo...
by refe
June 6th, 2011, 11:10 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Rev 4.2 καθημένος - awkward construction?
Replies: 6
Views: 1104

Re: Rev 4.2 καθημένος - awkward construction?

I've heard it said that Revelation makes perfect sense unless you try to make it make perfect sense. ;) I think that goes for both the Greek and the book itself!
by refe
June 6th, 2011, 11:03 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Rom. 4:1 "What then will we say?"
Replies: 3
Views: 887

Re: Rom. 4:1 "What then will we say?"

Thanks Stephen, I didn't have access to the Hays so it was helpful to hear a summary of his exegesis. Wright does not give any grammatical support, although his argument from context was compelling enough to make me want to understand how his conclusions were supported in the text. εὑρίσκω often tak...
by refe
June 5th, 2011, 9:02 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Rom. 4:1 "What then will we say?"
Replies: 3
Views: 887

Rom. 4:1 "What then will we say?"

Here's the text: Rom. 4:1 Τί οὖν ἐροῦμεν εὑρηκέναι Ἀβραὰμ τὸν προπάτορα ἡμῶν κατὰ σάρκα; (SBL) The usual translation is something like "What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh, has found?" NT Wright (along with Richard B. Hays and a few others) takes it to mean, "W...
by refe
June 3rd, 2011, 11:34 am
Forum: Resources
Topic: Best textbooks (Beginning, Intermediate)
Replies: 9
Views: 5727

Re: Best textbooks (Beginning, Intermediate)

It's pretty new (published Sept. 2010), but has anyone had the opportunity to look at Porter's 'Fundamentals of New Testament Greek' and the accompanying workbook? I flipped through the workbook and really appreciated some of the exercises which went beyond the simple recognition drills of Mounce an...
by refe
June 2nd, 2011, 12:22 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Church Fathers online?
Replies: 11
Views: 3435

Re: Church Fathers online?

I am putting together a simple online reader's version of some of the Church father's writings. I am in the VERY early stages, but the first 8 chapters of Ignatius to the Magnesians are up as an beta example. At this point it basically just lists the vocabulary that would be unfamiliar to students o...