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by Jason Hare
August 6th, 2011, 8:24 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Present Tense
Replies: 9
Views: 1366

Present Tense

(1) The English progressive form "are saying" corresponds to the Greek present; there is no need to include ἐσμεν. I just wanted to make sure that Stephen's first comment was understood here. λέγομεν is used for all indicative present tense forms. In English, we have two regular present tense forms...
by Jason Hare
August 6th, 2011, 7:11 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Rom 16:19 - χαιρω το εφ υμιν
Replies: 7
Views: 1010

Re: Rom 16:19 - χαιρω το εφ υμιν

I understand that "το εφ υμιν" can be a "substantivised" phrase meaning "that which is over (on account of) you", but can "χαιρω" really accept such a noun phrase as an object? If not, it sounds a little broken to me: "that which concerns you.. I rejoice". Haha.. For the range of usage, we have lex...
by Jason Hare
August 6th, 2011, 7:06 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: How to translate "My commandment is righteous." to Greek?
Replies: 8
Views: 918

Re: How to translate "My commandment is righteous." to Greek

χαιρε Δαυιδ, ἡ εντολη μου δικαια εστιν, δικαιον το εμον προσταγμα, εστιν δικαιοσυνη μονον εν τῃ μου εντολῃ. δικαιως μεν ουν κελευω. εντελλομαι μεν, δικαιῶ δε. ερρωσο, ω φιλε μου. Wouldn't it be nice to put the accents in for a beginner? Most people need them when they read Greek. ἡ ἐντολή μου δίκαι...
by Jason Hare
August 6th, 2011, 6:59 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Differentiating fictive and biological kinship
Replies: 44
Views: 9397

Re: Differentiating fictive and biological kinship

Well, Sean, you're free to understand it any way that you want. People interpret the Bible differently all the time, and that's your prerogative. You asked our opinion, and we all agree that your reading is not preferable to the traditional reading. If you just wanted our opinion, you've got it. I i...
by Jason Hare
August 6th, 2011, 6:47 pm
Forum: Word Meanings
Topic: οπισω
Replies: 5
Views: 1188

Re: οπισω

I was checking on the possible meanings of "οπισω", but neither in the new testament or septuagint or LSJ did I find that it can be used as a preposition with the meaning of "after (in time)", except for Matt 3:11 and John 1:15/27/30. Is there such a usage? Or is "μετα" used instead? I would think ...
by Jason Hare
August 6th, 2011, 11:41 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Differentiating fictive and biological kinship
Replies: 44
Views: 9397

Re: Differentiating fictive and biological kinship

My translation was perfectly "literal." We have the Saxon genitive in English, and it's a natural part of the language. Crosses cannot have brothers. However, lords can. There's a difference in how you're perceiving this. It seems that you're coming to the text with the idea that Jesus didn't have ...
by Jason Hare
August 6th, 2011, 11:20 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Differentiating fictive and biological kinship
Replies: 44
Views: 9397

Re: Titular and non-titular κυριος

You think it's strange that the NT would say κύριος instead of Ἰησοῦς? I just don't understand what the problem is here. I can't see what's causing the confusion. There are two distinct usages of κυριος in Greek, demonstrated in Ps 110:1, ειπεν ο κυριος τω κυριω μου. The first is what I call "non-t...
by Jason Hare
August 6th, 2011, 11:16 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Differentiating fictive and biological kinship
Replies: 44
Views: 9397

Re: Differentiating fictive and biological kinship

As an aside, ...ἕτερον δὲ τῶν ἀποστόλων οὐκ εἶδον, εἰ μὴ Ἰάκωβον τὸν ἀδελφὸν τοῦ κυρίου ( but I saw none of the other apostles, except James, the Lord's brother ... Using this translation will influence your approach to reading what Paul actually said. There is a subtle but significant difference b...
by Jason Hare
August 6th, 2011, 11:13 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Phil 1:14 ἐν κυρίῳ
Replies: 30
Views: 3306

Re: Phil 1:14

Jason, Yes, I understand what you are saying about the adverbials. However, ἀδελφός is rarely qualified by any of these when used of a fellow believer. I didn't mention adverbials. I stated that this is an adjectival phrase. "the brothers" - which brothers? - "the ones in the Lord" In classical Gre...
by Jason Hare
August 6th, 2011, 10:37 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Differentiating fictive and biological kinship
Replies: 44
Views: 9397

Re: Differentiating fictive and biological kinship

It really is a strange conversion. I mean, the Gospels state clearly that Jesus had brothers (Matthew 12:46; 13:55; Mark 3:31; Luke 8:19; John 7:3). The phrase τον αδελφον του κυριου says nothing about Jesus. That's why it's strange. You think it's strange that the NT would say κύριος instead of Ἰη...

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