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by Alan Bunning
September 1st, 2018, 8:06 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Legitimate word forms?
Replies: 28
Views: 16288

Re: Legitimate word forms?

Perspective of the wider language and the history of the language is needed to make good judgement calls. ΕΣΙΝ? I don't think so. It is easy to leave off an [ι] but then again, there may have been a sub-dialect with ΕΣΙΝ. Still ΕΣΙΝ also sounds close to ΕΣΤΙΝ. ΕΚΧΘΡΟΥΣ? I don't think so. Just scrib...
by Alan Bunning
September 1st, 2018, 12:27 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Legitimate word forms?
Replies: 28
Views: 16288

Legitimate word forms?

In working through the early NT manuscripts, there are a number of word forms that are repeated, often by more than one different scribe, but are not found in any lexicon. My question is, how many times does a word need to appear before it gets to be considered a legitimate word form? For example, ε...
by Alan Bunning
August 3rd, 2018, 11:28 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν
Replies: 11
Views: 11094

Re: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν

FYI, I continued looking into the matter and my answer was not found in the statistics (although that certainly helped me find the problem), but by doing more reading. The answer was not that α = ο, or that α ≠ ο, or that there was that there was a continuum of sounds. Instead, it had to do with the...
by Alan Bunning
July 12th, 2018, 10:49 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν
Replies: 11
Views: 11094

Re: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν

I decided to look at this problem from a different angle this morning and only focus on words that are scribal corrections. I think this gets at the core of the problem better. The approximate counts where corrections were made (including endings): ο/ω correction: 22 times α/ο correction: 15 times α...
by Alan Bunning
July 12th, 2018, 9:56 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν
Replies: 11
Views: 11094

Re: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν

What do you do about scribal mistakes? I'm sure that's the explanation for οπο. Yes, οπο is a scribal mistake and so it does not get its own lexical entry :-). Here is what I said about this in my ever-increasing project description ( https://greekcntr.org/downloads/project.pdf ): “All the words in...
by Alan Bunning
July 11th, 2018, 11:48 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν
Replies: 11
Views: 11094

Re: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν

Thanks for that feedback. I do know that his work on this is in line with current scholarship. Yes, I respect his scholarship and in fact have been depending on it. In other words, Buth's conclusions rest on a large body of evidence and analysis that is too large to be presented in a forum. I would ...
by Alan Bunning
July 11th, 2018, 12:49 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν
Replies: 11
Views: 11094

Re: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν

How do you account for this? The silence is deafening here. In order to figure out the order of magnitude, I went ahead and did the same search for words where ο and ω were being swapped and found that there were about twice as many cases, but that is somewhat misleading because several of the word...
by Alan Bunning
July 3rd, 2018, 11:07 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν
Replies: 11
Views: 11094

Re: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν

perhaps in some dialect the α sounded like ο? In antiquity, the various Greek dialects kept 'a' separate from 'o'. The closest vowel to 'a' was 'ω' but 'ω' merged with 'o' before New Testament times and 'a' was always kept distinct from 'o' . There is one dialect HOWEVER where 'a' and 'o' are confu...
by Alan Bunning
July 1st, 2018, 7:39 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν
Replies: 11
Views: 11094

Re: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν

It's the difference between a first aorist and a second aorist. Just different ways for the same form. The second aorist εἶπον is the older, classical form , but the first aorist εἶπαν is more regular. Similarly with ἦλθον / ἦλθαν. We don't really have enough evidence to get a good feel for the dif...
by Alan Bunning
June 30th, 2018, 10:02 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: εἶπον vs. εἶπαν
Replies: 11
Views: 11094

εἶπον vs. εἶπαν

Where they are both aorist 3rd person plural, some manuscripts will have εἶπον but others will have the εἶπαν. How is this difference viewed? 1. They are different distinct conjugations that happen to have the same meaning, i.e. the use of one over the other is somewhat deliberate. 2. They are merel...

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