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by David Lim
July 31st, 2014, 12:36 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Talking about the future in a past tense narrative text
Replies: 27
Views: 4599

Re: Talking about the future in a past tense narrative text

Thanks for checking, and I should have checked before posting. Fanning, Verbal Aspect , p.398, counts 84 present infinitives and 7 aorist infinitives with μέλλειν in the New Testament. Fanning, unfortunately, has no real explanation for the "striking predominance of present infinitives with μέλλω,"...
by David Lim
July 30th, 2014, 5:32 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Talking about the future in a past tense narrative text
Replies: 27
Views: 4599

Re: The time reference of οἱ πιστεύο(/σα)ντες εἰς αὐτόν

Another question: What do you make of the tense of λαμβάνειν? To me it suggests on-going, (which on turn suggests taking μέλλειν λαμβάνειν as the time reference of οι πιστεύο(/σα)ντες εἰς αὐτόν. Which suggests a mixture of history and ritual in the Gospel composition, rather than just "objective" h...
by David Lim
July 30th, 2014, 3:51 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Quoting bible verse in biblical greek
Replies: 49
Views: 14003

Re: Quoting bible verse in biblical greek

RandallButh wrote:Just a thought: before writing stuff on the body, try reading the whole Greek Bible.
I second this, and would like to assume it includes the LXX. Important things there! :)
by David Lim
July 30th, 2014, 3:17 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Talking about the future in a past tense narrative text
Replies: 27
Views: 4599

Re: The time reference of οἱ πιστεύο(/σα)ντες εἰς αὐτόν

Another question: What do you make of the tense of λαμβάνειν? To me it suggests on-going, (which on turn suggests taking μέλλειν λαμβάνειν as the time reference of οι πιστεύο(/σα)ντες εἰς αὐτόν. Which suggests a mixture of history and ritual in the Gospel composition, rather than just "objective" h...
by David Lim
July 28th, 2014, 10:24 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Talking about the future in a past tense narrative text
Replies: 27
Views: 4599

Re: Ἰησοῦς οὐδέπω ἐδοξάσθη as forward time limit

"Ἰησοῦς οὐδέπω ἐδοξάσθη" (verse 39) sets a point in time when, presumably the Spirit was given, and that predates the writing of the Gospel. Actually all we can infer from that one sentence is that the glorification of Jesus is a necessary condition for the the holy spirit to be given, and the wide...
by David Lim
July 28th, 2014, 9:26 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Talking about the future in a past tense narrative text
Replies: 27
Views: 4599

Re: Wondering about the sequence of tenses & innovation

A future participle wouldn't quite work here, because the subject of "λαμβανειν" is not "το πνευμα". I don't understand this statement. What is the relationship between τοῦ πνεύματος and οὗ (for ὃ). Doesn't a relative pronoun have the same force as the noun it refers to? Do you mean a future partic...
by David Lim
July 27th, 2014, 11:43 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Talking about the future in a past tense narrative text
Replies: 27
Views: 4599

Re: Talking about the future in a past tense narrative text

Τοῦτο δὲ εἶπεν περὶ τοῦ πνεύματος οὗ ἔμελλον λαμβάνειν οἱ πιστεύοντες εἰς αὐτόν· οὔπω γὰρ ἦν πνεῦμα ἅγιον, ὅτι Ἰησοῦς οὐδέπω ἐδοξάσθη. Is this tense construction the "normal" way to talk about an event in Koine Greek, which is "future" from the point of view of the narrative time? I think "μελλειν"...
by David Lim
July 18th, 2014, 9:39 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 2:6: attributive or predicate participles?
Replies: 41
Views: 8780

Re: Grouping of the spatial elements, position of κείμεναι

I found the placement of two participles together in the NA-UBS text much more difficult to understand than the separated ones in the Byzantine text-form. Ἦσαν δὲ ἐκεῖ λίθιναι ὑδρίαι ἓξ κατὰ τὸν καθαρισμὸν τῶν Ἰουδαίων κείμεναι, χωροῦσαι ἀνὰ μετρητὰς δύο ἢ τρεῖς Thanks to David Lim for pointing out...
by David Lim
July 14th, 2014, 12:10 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Hendiadys in Titus 2.13
Replies: 14
Views: 3089

Re: Hendiadys in Titus 2.13

Concerning whether it makes sense to have "the glory of God" appearing, it seems well established in the writings that it can refer to something definite that can be seen, such as in 1 Sam 4:21, 2 Chr 5:14, Acts 7:55, Rev 15:8, so at the very least it isn't as unlikely as we might suppose due to our...
by David Lim
July 12th, 2014, 11:30 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Acts 15:20 The extent of ἀπὸ / ἀλισγημάτων
Replies: 11
Views: 2375

Re: Can ritual impurity include πορνεία?

For whatever it is worth, I found http://www.mjstudies.com/storage/Mark%207.19b.pdf, which states "four pollutions" on page 10 , however it makes some very strange claims, such as that "πορνεια" has to do with ritual impurity, ... The URL that you mean to refer to is http://www.biblicalstudies.org....

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