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by David Lim
June 25th, 2014, 10:03 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 5:4 ἐγίνετο
Replies: 6
Views: 971

Re: John 5:4

cwconrad wrote:I think this is equivalent to a past general condition, setting forth what ordinarily happened when such and such a condition was met; in earlier Greek the protasis would have been formulated in the optative mood, the apodosis in the imperfect indicative.
I see. Thanks for both your answers!
by David Lim
June 25th, 2014, 9:54 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Parsing of Rom 3:19 and ἵνα clause as complement
Replies: 27
Views: 3845

Re: Parsing of Rom 3:19

(1) About the examples I provided, you seem to say that the ἵνα clauses still have purposes in mind. But this judgement seems forced, which is caused by the presupposition that the ἵνα clauses ALWAYS introduce purposes. No it's not forced. I never make any presuppositions, but rather find the best ...
by David Lim
June 25th, 2014, 8:42 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 5:4 ἐγίνετο
Replies: 6
Views: 971

Re: John 5:4

It is general / habitual: would become , suggesting that this single act is part of a larger pattern of similar acts. So the imperfect is used simply because of the repetition of this disturbance of the pool's water according to the season and the resulting repetition of someone getting well? I don...
by David Lim
June 25th, 2014, 6:31 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 5:4 ἐγίνετο
Replies: 6
Views: 971

Re: John 5:4

Stephen Carlson wrote:It is general / habitual: would become, suggesting that this single act is part of a larger pattern of similar acts.
So the imperfect is used simply because of the repetition of this disturbance of the pool's water according to the season and the resulting repetition of someone getting well?
by David Lim
June 25th, 2014, 6:26 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Rev 2:10 μηδέν
Replies: 4
Views: 735

Re: Rev 2:10

Per BDAG μηδείς 2bβ (p. 647), μηδέν = in no way Ah I see. That makes perfect sense, though I don't have BDAG. ;) Per BDAG μηδείς 2bβ (p. 647), μηδέν = in no way It seems weaker than examples like: Καὶ ἐπετίμησεν αὐτῷ ὁ Ἰησοῦς, λέγων, Φιμώθητι, καὶ ἔξελθε ἐξ αὐτοῦ. Καὶ ῥίψαν αὐτὸν τὸ δαιμόνιον εἰς μ...
by David Lim
June 25th, 2014, 6:08 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 1:9 ἐρχόμενον
Replies: 25
Views: 4510

Re: Verb to be - circumstantial adverbial - pointed hat

I suggested that "ερχομενον ..." describes the situation in which the event described by "φωτιζει ..." occurs, in the same way as " οντα υπο την συκην" in John 1:48 specifies that it was with Nathaniel being under the fig tree that Jesus saw him, and both "συ ιουδαιος ων " and "γυναικος σαμαριτιδος...
by David Lim
June 25th, 2014, 5:27 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 5:4 ἐγίνετο
Replies: 6
Views: 971

John 5:4 ἐγίνετο

[John 5:4 Byz] αγγελος γαρ κατα καιρον κατεβαινεν εν τη κολυμβηθρα και εταρασσεν το υδωρ ο ουν πρωτος εμβας μετα την ταραχην του υδατος υγιης εγινετο ω δηποτε κατειχετο νοσηματι

What exactly does the imperfect tense of "εγινετο" here mean?
by David Lim
June 25th, 2014, 5:02 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Rev 2:10 μηδέν
Replies: 4
Views: 735

Rev 2:10 μηδέν

[Rev 2:10] μηδεν φοβου α μελλεις πασχειν ιδου δη μελλει βαλειν ο διαβολος εξ υμων εις φυλακην ινα πειρασθητε και εξετε θλιψιν ημερων δεκα γινου πιστος αχρι θανατου και δωσω σοι τον στεφανον της ζωης

Something eludes me. Why is "μηδεν" not in agreement with "α"?
by David Lim
June 25th, 2014, 4:58 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 1:9 ἐρχόμενον
Replies: 25
Views: 4510

Re: Collocation? and Adverbial?

For (3), I take "ερχομενον" to be nominative neuter in agreement with the nominative neuter indefinite relative pronoun "ο", and adverbially modifying "φωτιζει" in the sense that it is in "coming into the world" that it "illuminates every man". "ερχομενον" does not modify "ο" directly, otherwise it...
by David Lim
June 25th, 2014, 3:09 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: John 1:9 ἐρχόμενον
Replies: 25
Views: 4510

Re: What gender is this circumstantial adverbial?

What gender do you take ἐρχόμενον εἰς τὸν κόσμον as? I think you are taking it as neuter, and in that case, Is it neuter agreeing with φῶς or neuter as an adverbial (like the neuter of adjectives)? I take the proposal as construing ἐρχόμενον εἰς τὸν κόσμον to agree with the neuter subject ὅ of φωτί...

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