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by Jonathan Robie
August 3rd, 2019, 10:48 am
Forum: The Verb in Koine Greek
Topic: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference
Replies: 74
Views: 8642

Re: Aorist indicative with future temporal reference

were there instances in which aorist indicative constructions (i.e. in the New Testament), commonly translated as past tense, were reinterpreted with future temporal reference? Can you give examples (Koine, from OT/NT or elsewhere) where aorist indicative should be interpreted with future temporal ...
by Jonathan Robie
August 2nd, 2019, 5:18 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Reintegrating
Replies: 1
Views: 788

Re: Reintegrating

davidmcy2 wrote:
August 1st, 2019, 12:32 pm
Hello, I'm David McCoy. I was a member back in 2007 and would like to reintegrate.
Well hello! Welcome back!
by Jonathan Robie
August 1st, 2019, 8:25 am
Forum: Teaching Methods
Topic: Why not start with modern Greek?
Replies: 92
Views: 34016

Re: Why not start with modern Greek?

To me, it's usually best to focus on the thing you want to learn and the skills you want to have. The SIOP people studied language learning in California high schools. They learned that if you want students to be able to use English to discuss history, the best way to do that is to have them use Eng...
by Jonathan Robie
July 29th, 2019, 2:32 pm
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: The Peculiar Compound Non-postpositive Hapax μενοῦν in Luke 11:28
Replies: 11
Views: 1361

Re: The Peculiar Compound Non-postpositive Hapax μενοῦν in Luke 11:28

Yes, impossible Greek tends to get some sort of response from scribes in the history of transmissions, but we don't see that here. Yes - if it is ungrammatical or unreadable, later scribes tend to smooth it out. And we don't see that. The reason we see this word in critical editions is that it was ...
by Jonathan Robie
July 27th, 2019, 8:46 pm
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: The Peculiar Compound Non-postpositive Hapax μενοῦν in Luke 11:28
Replies: 11
Views: 1361

Re: The Peculiar Compound Non-postpositive Hapax μενοῦν in Luke 11:28

I believe that μενοῦν or μεν οὖν in the initial position in Luke 11:28 is impossible Greek. There are no examples with a postpositive in the initial position in the GNT. It is an absolute rule. I believe that text editors should reject impossible Greek just as they reject incorrect spelling. I thin...
by Jonathan Robie
July 26th, 2019, 4:49 pm
Forum: Koine Greek Texts
Topic: The Peculiar Compound Non-postpositive Hapax μενοῦν in Luke 11:28
Replies: 11
Views: 1361

Re: The Peculiar Compound Non-postpositive Hapax μενοῦν in Luke 11:28

There is no classical or Koine example of μὲν οὖν or μενοῦν in the initial position. μενοῦν lacks confirming evidence in Bauer or Moulton and Milligan. How would you analyze these examples? Luke 11:28 αὐτὸς δὲ εἶπεν, Μενοῦν μακάριοι οἱ ἀκούοντες τὸν λόγον τοῦ θεοῦ καὶ φυλάσσοντες. Romans 9:20 ὦ ἄνθ...
by Jonathan Robie
July 21st, 2019, 6:09 pm
Forum: Eleanor Dickey: Composition and Analysis of Greek Prose
Topic: Group Proposal
Replies: 12
Views: 1495

Re: Use B-Greek for Dickey's composition book?

I've proposed something in the Staff Forum. We'll get back on this soon. Jason proposed that we start this off with a thread or two and make sure it has momentum before creating a sub-forum. I agree. Also: Dickey's book is not easy. Plan on going slow. People may move at different rates. Just be aw...
by Jonathan Robie
June 25th, 2019, 9:28 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Verbless clauses
Replies: 9
Views: 1055

Re: Verbless clauses

I am reading through Luke again at the moment and in Luke 4:18 it reads πνεῦμα κυρίου ἐπʼ ἐμὲ οὗ εἵνεκεν ἔχρισέν με εὐαγγελίσασθαι πτωχοῖς, ἀπέσταλκέν με,⸆ κηρύξαι αἰχμαλώτοις ἄφεσιν καὶ τυφλοῖς ἀνάβλεψιν, ἀποστεῖλαι τεθραυσμένους ἐν ἀφέσει, I have highlighted the first clause which I would classif...
by Jonathan Robie
June 10th, 2019, 11:18 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"
Replies: 13
Views: 1540

Re: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"

How could you know what it is that you do not yet know? There's no harm in learning something this way. Hey Jonathan, I was more thinking that this should be my default position, given that I am self-taught I should probably be less confident in my assertions. Certainly not a bad thing, I learn a l...
by Jonathan Robie
June 9th, 2019, 2:50 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"
Replies: 13
Views: 1540

Re: Romans 10:10 and impersonal "passives"

Matthew Longhorn wrote:
June 7th, 2019, 4:08 pm
Time for me to admit I am out of my depth, something I should do more regularly before typing.
How could you know what it is that you do not yet know? There's no harm in learning something this way.

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