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by Jonathan Robie
April 26th, 2020, 5:04 pm
Forum: Introductions
Topic: A Newbie Greek Learner
Replies: 9
Views: 387

Re: A Newbie Greek Learner

@Jason Hare, I'm using Biblingo, which is still in the beta testing stages. @Christina Diggles: I'm really unfamiliar with the new app. Does it present grammar and everything? Have you considered using a traditional grammar, or will this app cover everything? Jason Hare I have been using biblingo f...
by Jonathan Robie
April 22nd, 2020, 10:49 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: A Newbie Greek Learner
Replies: 9
Views: 387

Re: A Newbie Greek Learner

Welcome, Christina!
by Jonathan Robie
April 21st, 2020, 5:26 pm
Forum: Resources
Topic: Biblingo - communicative instruction at an affordable price
Replies: 4
Views: 345

Re: Biblingo - communicative instruction at an affordable price

Since I will probably wind up learning from both of you, I would love to see that discussion.

Perhaps on B-Hebrew? Or is there a better place for it? Obviously, B-Greek is a better place for discussion about Greek ...
by Jonathan Robie
April 21st, 2020, 8:56 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Matthew 5.3: Why is the article not translated in τῷ πνεύματι?
Replies: 4
Views: 7234

Re: Matthew 5.3: Why is the article not translated in τῷ πνεύματι?

I checked the various Greek texts, and they all have the article. My impression is that "the spirit" should, by default, translated as the Spirit, yet I don't see that in English translations going back to Wycliffe; in fact, I don't see "the" at all. Any thoughts? Barry answered well. I just want t...
by Jonathan Robie
April 20th, 2020, 6:04 pm
Forum: Resources
Topic: Biblingo - communicative instruction at an affordable price
Replies: 4
Views: 345

Biblingo - communicative instruction at an affordable price

I have been learning Hebrew using the Biblingo beta: https://biblingo.org/ They also have Greek, but my experience is with the Hebrew portion. So far, I am extremely impressed. They really get language instruction and communicative approaches, without skimping on the grammar - but teaching it commun...
by Jonathan Robie
April 20th, 2020, 9:51 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Corinthians 13:13 νυνὶ δὲ μένει
Replies: 10
Views: 458

Re: 1 Corinthians 13:13 νυνὶ δὲ μένει

Edgar Krentz sent me an email on this topic: νυνὶ δέ in non NT Greek denotes what is actually the case after saying something that is not true. Will that fit the 1 Corinthians 13 text? The UBS Translation Handbook says this: So (TEV|prj:GNTD.1CO.13.13's “Meanwhile”) is literally “now.” In some conte...
by Jonathan Robie
April 19th, 2020, 4:51 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Corinthians 13:13 νυνὶ δὲ μένει
Replies: 10
Views: 458

Re: 1 Corinthians 13:13 νυνὶ δὲ μένει

A possible key in the interpretation here would be the likely meaning of ελπις and πιστις. I wonder if πιστις here is akin to Hebrews 11.1: Ἔστιν δὲ πίστις ἐλπιζομένων ὑπόστασις, πραγμάτων ἔλεγχος οὐ βλεπομένων.. In which case it would not be obvious how that would have value in the eschaton. But i...
by Jonathan Robie
April 19th, 2020, 4:02 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Corinthians 13:13 νυνὶ δὲ μένει
Replies: 10
Views: 458

Re: 1 Corinthians 13:13 νυνὶ δὲ μένει

Perhaps the issue is an implied constrast (of what kind?) between ἄρτι and νυνί? I think there must be a contrast between the two. νυνὶ δὲ is clearly contrastive. So is τότε δὲ, so I think I see the overall pattern as ἄρτι ... τότε δὲ ... ἄρτι ... τότε δὲ ... νυνὶ δὲ ... One of the other main thing...
by Jonathan Robie
April 17th, 2020, 12:48 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Corinthians 13:13 νυνὶ δὲ μένει
Replies: 10
Views: 458

Re: 1 Corinthians 13:13 νυνὶ δὲ μένει

From left to right. Or do you have something more specific in mind? Some translations seem to treat νυνί as a discourse marker that does not have a strong temporal sense, others seem to treat it as a strong time marker. A little like the difference between: "Now these three things remain (even when...
by Jonathan Robie
April 17th, 2020, 9:50 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Corinthians 13:13 νυνὶ δὲ μένει
Replies: 10
Views: 458

1 Corinthians 13:13 νυνὶ δὲ μένει

1 Corinthians 13:13 wrote:νυνὶ δὲ μένει πίστις, ἐλπίς, ἀγάπη, τὰ τρία ταῦτα· μείζων δὲ τούτων ἡ ἀγάπη.
How do you read νυνὶ δὲ μένει in this sentence?

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