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by cwconrad
June 7th, 2011, 11:32 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Double Negatives (was John 14:30)
Replies: 19
Views: 5785

Re: Double Negatives (was John 14:30)

I haven't been participating in this thread but I've followed it with interest. I'd like to make a comment at the end, but also make a couple points here and there, deleting what's not relevant to my comments. I meant "logical inversion" in mathematics or computer science, not that Greek i...
by cwconrad
June 4th, 2011, 7:17 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: John 14:30
Replies: 24
Views: 6936

Re: John 14:30

Is the double negative οὐκ ἔχει οὐδέν functionally equivalent to ἔχει οὐδέν? Ancient Greek, like some other languages, tends to use the negating word (οὐ or μὴ) with a second negative adverb or pronoun. This is one of the structural features of ancient Greek usage that one learns when one works sys...
by cwconrad
June 3rd, 2011, 6:33 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Mt 1:19 AUTHN object or subject
Replies: 10
Views: 4199

Re: Mt 1:19 AUTHN objcet or subject

Oun, have you ever worked all the way through a first-year Greek textbook? I ask because your questions have often given me the impression that you are working at understanding NT Greek texts with a parsing guide to tell you the grammatical forms and one or more translations and/or commentaries to h...
by cwconrad
June 3rd, 2011, 1:47 pm
Forum: Seen on the Web
Topic: Reading Greek beyond the basics: Saturation style
Replies: 12
Views: 4186

Reading Greek beyond the basics: Saturation style

John Hobbins maintains one of the most fascinating and provocative (in the best sense) "Biblioblogs"accessible on the web; it is called "Ancient Hebrew Poetry": http://ancienthebrewpoetry.typepad.com/ancient_hebrew_poetry/ . Although my Hebrew is inadequate to appreciate his anal...
by cwconrad
June 2nd, 2011, 2:36 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Passive Imperative
Replies: 12
Views: 21322

Re: Passive Imperative

...However, you said that ALL the passive imperatives are middle. Perhaps my understanding of the middle is too narrow, but there are a few occurrences that still strike me as truly passive. I think that the second-person imperatives with "passive" forms all do involve voluntary submissio...
by cwconrad
June 2nd, 2011, 1:00 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: The dwindling group of proficient ancient Greek readers
Replies: 5
Views: 13305

Re: The dwindling group of proficient ancient Greek readers

See Policies: "Policy: B-Greek does require Greek" where it is spelled out what we mean by "a working knowledge of Biblical Greek." I would think it involves being able to read with minimal help from grammars and lexica, without "decoding" texts and analyzing them into ...
by cwconrad
June 2nd, 2011, 7:25 am
Forum: Announcements
Topic: ΖΗΤΩ B-GREEK!
Replies: 2
Views: 12424

ΖΗΤΩ B-GREEK!

If I may, I'd like to write a few heartfelt words to list-members on my own behalf. I am cautiously optimistic that B-Greek is on the verge of a renaissance. I'd like to think, moreover, that my diminished and altered role in the forum's administration will be one of many factors making such a renai...
by cwconrad
June 1st, 2011, 1:39 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Passive Imperative
Replies: 12
Views: 21322

Re: Passive Imperative

I'm looking for some direction on interpreting the Greek passive imperative, particularly in the NT. I have trouble conceiving of it as a true passive, in which Subject1 is acted upon by Subject2. And you are quite right. All these so-called "passive" imperatives are actually MIDDLE imper...
by cwconrad
May 31st, 2011, 9:09 pm
Forum: Questions
Topic: McMaster & B-Greek
Replies: 16
Views: 5833

Re: McMaster & B-Greek

"Barrius" scripsit:
Cum proprio in loco sit Latinam amamus... :D

N.E. "Barrius" Hofstetter
Si tibi placet, mihi quoque placet.
by cwconrad
May 31st, 2011, 4:44 pm
Forum: Church Fathers and Patristic Greek Texts
Topic: Justin Martyr, 1.1, and translating the aorist participle
Replies: 1
Views: 2914

Re: Justin Martyr, 1.1, and translating the aorist participl

Mike Baber: 1 Περιπατοῦντί μοι ἕωθεν ἐν τοῖς τοῦ ξυστοῦ περιπάτοις συναντήσας τις μετὰ καὶ ἄλλων· Φιλόσοφε, χαῖρε, ἔφη. καὶ ἅμα εἰπὼν τοῦτο ἐπιστραφεὶς συμπεριεπάτει μοι· συνεπέστρεφον δ' αὐτῷ καὶ οἱ φίλοι αὐτοῦ. κἀγὼ ἔμπαλιν προσαγορεύσας αὐτόν· Τί μάλιστα; ἔφην. My question involves aorist active ...

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