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by Barry Hofstetter
November 23rd, 2019, 9:30 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Declension of foreign names --- Judith 2:24
Replies: 4
Views: 597

Re: Declension of foreign names --- Judith 2:24

I was hoping one of our LXX mavens would pick this up, but "oh well." As it is, the name seems unattested elsewhere, and what you are seeing is people's best guess as to how to represent it in English.
by Barry Hofstetter
November 22nd, 2019, 2:08 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Replies: 16
Views: 1503

Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns

Jean, I understand. Barry argued for a cataphoric possessive αὐτῶν while I argued for an anaphoric partitive. Note the KJV translators opted for an anaphoric possessive (with perplexing effect)! Not sure exactly how an "anaophoric partitive" should be read. Partitives are used in very specific cons...
by Barry Hofstetter
November 21st, 2019, 6:55 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Replies: 16
Views: 1503

Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns

Jean, if you can get over the notion that the scribes and pharisees would not join a party thrown by a tax-collector, the anaphoric use of αὐτῶν here reads more naturally than the cataphoric one, don't you think? The greek genitive case doesn't always map to the english "of". I actually prefer RP's...
by Barry Hofstetter
November 21st, 2019, 3:31 pm
Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
Topic: 2 Esdras 4
Replies: 2
Views: 434

Re: 2 Esdras 4

I'm trying to find the Greek vorlage for this translation of 2 Esdras 4 that mentions the angel Uriel: https://www.biblestudytools.com/gnta/2-esdras/4.html This doesn't correspond with Nehemiah 4:1 - https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/neh/4/1/t_conc_417001 This might help to orient you: https://ps...
by Barry Hofstetter
November 21st, 2019, 11:19 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Replies: 16
Views: 1503

Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns

no γραμματευς would ever enter such a house Actually here some of them apparently did, otherwise how could they speak to Jesus and his disciples? A house holding such a large reception party must include the yard and possibly a couple of streets outside. There's no clear point of entry. Let the tex...
by Barry Hofstetter
November 21st, 2019, 10:17 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Replies: 16
Views: 1503

Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns

Interesting that it would claim "always." Almost never is anything "always..." :) In this context, it cannot be read any other way. This is probably one reason why it's a text critical issue.
by Barry Hofstetter
November 21st, 2019, 8:52 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: prep phrase position
Replies: 2
Views: 465

Re: prep phrase position

Greetings, Sandra, feel free to introduce yourself in the Introductions subforum. To answer your question, no and a bit of yes. In terms of how we end up rendering the Greek into English, it often does not make a difference, but word order in the longer sentence can sometimes make a difference (with...
by Barry Hofstetter
November 20th, 2019, 12:23 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Help with morphological question
Replies: 2
Views: 415

Re: Help with morphological question

John 7:3, actually: εἶπον οὖν πρὸς αὐτὸν οἱ ἀδελφοὶ αὐτοῦ, Μετάβηθι ἐντεῦθεν καὶ ὕπαγε εἰς τὴν Ἰουδαίαν... Here is a reference for βαίνω: https://ucbclassics.dreamhosters.com/ancgreek/paradigmsU/paradigmtables6BOM.html#verbpdgm49 The aorist stem of βαίνω and its various relations is simply βη- and i...
by Barry Hofstetter
November 20th, 2019, 12:54 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Greetings!
Replies: 6
Views: 817

Re: Greetings!

Welcome, Matt, good to have you aboard, and we look forward to your questions and contributions.
by Barry Hofstetter
November 19th, 2019, 9:09 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns
Replies: 16
Views: 1503

Re: Cataphoric use of Personal Pronouns

The former reading is anaphoric, the later cataphoric. In either case, the antecedent is φαρασαῖοι.

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