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by Barry Hofstetter
October 24th, 2012, 8:08 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Lu 1:58
Replies: 16
Views: 2950

Re: Lu 1:58

Let me add that "congratulate" and "rejoice with" are both part of the semantic range of the verb, the difference being simply one of nuance. I personally think "rejoice with" captures the force a bit better in the context of Lu 1:58. Now, Roy, the warning you were given in the other thread counts f...
by Barry Hofstetter
October 24th, 2012, 7:03 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Mat 6:13 Who is addressed?
Replies: 20
Views: 5036

Re: Mat 6:13 Who is addressed?

May I commend the moderators for their patience! You may indeed, and the moderators will receive and appreciate any and all commendation. However, our patience is not limitless, and here I have to issue a final warning to Roy Frederick: Roy, you admit that you are a novice. You quote online materia...
by Barry Hofstetter
October 23rd, 2012, 10:11 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Peter 5:3
Replies: 10
Views: 1782

Re: 1 Peter 5:3

I think personally that the most important thing is Barry's last sentence: "It's clear what it means." Understanding the meaning of a standard formulation like τύποι τοῦ ποιμνίου precedes the endeavor to explain how such a construction actually works. I wouldn't call this an "objective genitive" be...
by Barry Hofstetter
October 23rd, 2012, 3:46 am
Forum: Resources
Topic: Parsing resources and "next steps"
Replies: 7
Views: 4607

Re: Parsing resources and "next steps"

In addition to Randall's always excellent comments, let me add that you don't practice the English alphabet every day. You use it. Randall is giving you a major way of using what you've learned. Another way (both/and not either/or) is to read as much ancient Greek every day as you can fit into your ...
by Barry Hofstetter
October 22nd, 2012, 8:28 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Mat 6:13 Who is addressed?
Replies: 20
Views: 5036

Re: Mat 6:13 Who is addressed?

Thank you kindly for your response, however here is the link: ῥύομαι (ρυ-, ρυ·σ-, ρυ·σ-, -, -, ρυσ·θ-) 1aor mp imp 2nd sg 4506 ῥύομαι Root: middle voice of an obsolete verb, akin to <G4482> (through the idea of a current, cf <G4511>)ῥύσις Strong's Talking Greek & Hebrew Dictionary. Strong's is not ...
by Barry Hofstetter
October 22nd, 2012, 8:10 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Peter 5:3
Replies: 10
Views: 1782

Re: 1 Peter 5:3

May the Lord protect us from the multiplication of genitives! :D But if someone put a sword to my throat and made me choose, I would say some type (!) of objective genitive, since it really means examples that the flock are to look toward or emulate. Thanks for the reply. So, τύποι ... τοῦ ποιμνίου...
by Barry Hofstetter
October 21st, 2012, 8:21 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: 1 Peter 5:3
Replies: 10
Views: 1782

Re: 1 Peter 5:3

Please supply your real name -- we don't allow anonymous posting here. If you supply it, a moderator will update your info so that is shows in your signature. Secondly, may the Lord protect us from the multiplication of genitives! :D But if someone put a sword to my throat and made me choose, I woul...
by Barry Hofstetter
October 21st, 2012, 7:50 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Mat 6:13 Who is addressed?
Replies: 20
Views: 5036

Re: Mat 6:13 Who is addressed?

Let me point out that nothing in the Greek particularly leads us to this particular, ah, theological, conclusion. Please restrict your comments specifically to the Greek texts. For your edification, here is BDAG on ῥύομαι, and comment below that:You are apparently confusing this with ῥέω, a differe...
by Barry Hofstetter
October 21st, 2012, 9:45 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Mat 6:13 Who is addressed?
Replies: 20
Views: 5036

Re: Mat 6:13 Who is addressed?

Who draws as a current to oneself,? that is of course the Πάτερ ἡμῶν Sorry I can't figure out what you are trying to say in any of your posts. Can you say what you mean clearly? Thanks, yes, what it is saying is that God is the flowing Spirit of waters, a current that draws you into His flowing por...
by Barry Hofstetter
October 20th, 2012, 8:19 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Matt 26:71
Replies: 8
Views: 1012

Re: Matt 26:71

It wouldn't be an absolute because the subject of the participle is the object of the main verb. The sentence looks unremarkable to me. "Another servant girl saw him go out to the gate and said to those who were there..." Mat 26:71 ἐξελθόντα δὲ εἰς τὸν πυλῶνα εἶδεν αὐτὸν ἄλλη καὶ λέγει τοῖς ἐκεῖ· ο...

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