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by Stephen Carlson
May 26th, 2020, 6:41 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek
Replies: 24
Views: 1414

Re: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek

Native accent should not be a goal. Non-native speakers can and do attain pronunciation within phonemic bounds. So should our Greek students. Non-native speakers exceedingly rarely attain a native accent and it is not a reasonable goal in teaching. Accent should only be corrected when it results in...
by Stephen Carlson
May 24th, 2020, 5:02 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek
Replies: 24
Views: 1414

Re: The 'Lucian Pronunciation' of Koine Greek

Thanks for your passionate comments, Raffaele. I too have studied have studied a large number of modern languages, and I too have striven to reproduce the languages’ phonology as best I can, even on sub-phonemic distinctions. Modesty precludes me from claiming any “near-native” proficiency in pronun...
by Stephen Carlson
May 24th, 2020, 9:48 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Modern Greek First?
Replies: 4
Views: 209

Re: Modern Greek First?

But I know what you are saying, students with limited time and resources whose main purposes is reading the NT. My suggestion is that if you can, start with Attic, because it also makes reading texts outside the NT more accessible. Moving from the Greek of the NT to extra-biblical Greek literature ...
by Stephen Carlson
May 24th, 2020, 8:54 am
Forum: Teaching and Learning Greek
Topic: Modern Greek First?
Replies: 4
Views: 209

Re: Modern Greek First?

The real question is whether to start with Attic Greek, before Koine.
by Stephen Carlson
May 22nd, 2020, 9:25 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Subject and Predicate in 1 Cor 11:3 παντὸς ἀνδρὸς ἡ κεφαλὴ [ὁ] Χριστός ἐστιν
Replies: 33
Views: 1085

Re: Subject and Predicate in 1 Cor 11:3 παντὸς ἀνδρὸς ἡ κεφαλὴ [ὁ] Χριστός ἐστιν

I have both Levinsohn's Discourse Analysis, which identifies left-dislocation, and a set of syntax trees. I need to do a little monkeying to make their reference systems compatible, but I can probably get to that in the next week and give this a shot. There's some danger that this is specific enoug...
by Stephen Carlson
May 22nd, 2020, 9:23 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Subject and Predicate in 1 Cor 11:3 παντὸς ἀνδρὸς ἡ κεφαλὴ [ὁ] Χριστός ἐστιν
Replies: 33
Views: 1085

Re: Subject and Predicate in 1 Cor 11:3 παντὸς ἀνδρὸς ἡ κεφαλὴ [ὁ] Χριστός ἐστιν

You have provided a long a long answer. In the past, I assumed that words which attach to other words in speech are still treated as separate tokens when you analyze the syntax. For that reason what they sound like has been a matter of little interest. I am with you until we get to items 14-20. The...
by Stephen Carlson
May 21st, 2020, 8:32 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Subject and Predicate in 1 Cor 11:3 παντὸς ἀνδρὸς ἡ κεφαλὴ [ὁ] Χριστός ἐστιν
Replies: 33
Views: 1085

Re: Subject and Predicate in 1 Cor 11:3 παντὸς ἀνδρὸς ἡ κεφαλὴ [ὁ] Χριστός ἐστιν

So the hypothesis to test is purely about word order, and under this hypothesis A ἐστιν B => A is the predicate, A B ἐστιν => B is the predicate, and any nominative finite form of ἐστιν will do? Almost. You ask a very good question. Under the framework that Mike and I have been working with for a n...
by Stephen Carlson
May 21st, 2020, 10:34 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Subject and Predicate in 1 Cor 11:3 παντὸς ἀνδρὸς ἡ κεφαλὴ [ὁ] Χριστός ἐστιν
Replies: 33
Views: 1085

Re: Subject and Predicate in 1 Cor 11:3 παντὸς ἀνδρὸς ἡ κεφαλὴ [ὁ] Χριστός ἐστιν

If ἐστιν clitics behave the way pronominal ones do, then [ὁ] Χριστός ἐστιν is the natural predicate/assertion. Good call. I believe they do, but it would be worthwhile double-checking to see if A B ἐστιν means that B is in the predicate/assertion. And what would you expect if A is in the predicate/...
by Stephen Carlson
May 21st, 2020, 2:36 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Subject and Predicate in 1 Cor 11:3 παντὸς ἀνδρὸς ἡ κεφαλὴ [ὁ] Χριστός ἐστιν
Replies: 33
Views: 1085

Re: Subject and Predicate in 1 Cor 11:3 παντὸς ἀνδρὸς ἡ κεφαλὴ [ὁ] Χριστός ἐστιν

Yes. And by the way, I don't have a clue what our class 5.7 rock climbing photographer[1] is talking about. Clitics? Nothing about it in the works I have read. So this lingo problem isn't unique to one particular framework. Sounds like a branch of linguistics that deals with sounds. I skipped over ...
by Stephen Carlson
May 20th, 2020, 6:52 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Subject and Predicate in 1 Cor 11:3 παντὸς ἀνδρὸς ἡ κεφαλὴ [ὁ] Χριστός ἐστιν
Replies: 33
Views: 1085

Re: Subject and Predicate in 1 Cor 11:3 παντὸς ἀνδρὸς ἡ κεφαλὴ [ὁ] Χριστός ἐστιν

No hostility at all! But so often we throw around metalanguage, and I'm inviting you to wax eloquent on the "pay off" for this insight (which I think is good, BTW). No worries, but I think I'll decline the invitation to "wax eloquent." It's just discourse analysis and there are better people than m...

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