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by WAnderson
September 24th, 2017, 1:00 am
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Grammaticalization of tense?
Replies: 18
Views: 3914

Re: Grammaticalization of tense?

Thanks Stirling. The book was on my buy list, will move it to the top. I'll drop the topic now ... except to ask, if anyone cares to answer ... Speaking of Wallace, what place should his book have today? I've read some who swear by him and others who swear at him. Should it be on a very short list o...
by WAnderson
September 23rd, 2017, 7:39 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Grammaticalization of tense?
Replies: 18
Views: 3914

Re: Grammaticalization of tense?

I think one problem for beginners (and this is the Beginners Forum) is a misunderstanding (or the improper use of) terminology relating to this topic. For instance, when Wallace (555) writes In the indicative, the aorist usually indicates past time with reference to the time of speaking (thus, "abso...
by WAnderson
September 23rd, 2017, 6:02 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Grammaticalization of tense?
Replies: 18
Views: 3914

Re: Grammaticalization of tense?

OK, well I guess that puts me back at square one. Thank you for your responses.
by WAnderson
September 19th, 2017, 8:01 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Grammaticalization of tense?
Replies: 18
Views: 3914

Re: Grammaticalization of tense?

I think the light came on. For English speakers it's difficult to think of "tense" in anything but temportal terms (past, present, future). But "aspectual" tense deals with perspective rather than time. Therefore, according to this theory, Greek tense is a morphological (grammatical) phenomenon rath...
by WAnderson
September 19th, 2017, 5:45 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Grammaticalization of tense?
Replies: 18
Views: 3914

Re: Grammaticalization of tense?

Thanks, Mike. Still a little unclear, though. I probably should have included an example quote in order to frame my question, which I'll do here: I have suggested that the verb tenses in Revelation should be seen as grammaticalizing the semantic category of verbal aspect, rather than time or Aktions...
by WAnderson
September 18th, 2017, 11:26 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Grammaticalization of tense?
Replies: 18
Views: 3914

Grammaticalization of tense?

What does it mean to "grammaticalize" tense or aspect (for example, as opposed to Aktionsart)? I'm hoping for a fairly simple answer, since other explanations I've read seem to quickly get bogged down with technical terminology.
by WAnderson
May 8th, 2017, 11:05 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Partitive Trouble
Replies: 4
Views: 1254

Re: Partitive Trouble

Thanks, I guess that explains why I was having trouble with it. So, just to be clear, τῶν ἑπτά represents the "whole," and in this instance ἐκ is the "part"? Would this explain why some versions translate it "one of the seven," in order to supply a head noun for what ἐκ implies?
by WAnderson
May 8th, 2017, 7:27 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Partitive Trouble
Replies: 4
Views: 1254

Partitive Trouble

Studying genitives, specifically partitives, in my on-again off-again torturous journey through Revelation (but I've learned a lot doing it). So I came across a passage I've had trouble with before, but for a different reason this time. Simple definition of partitive genitive: The head substantive i...
by WAnderson
March 15th, 2017, 6:39 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Clarification on "affected" and "unaffected" meanings
Replies: 5
Views: 1199

Re: Clarification on "affected" and "unaffected" meanings

Oops, saw the reference to GGBB after I posted. For some reason GGBB didn't come up in the searches I did. Thanks, that helps.
by WAnderson
March 15th, 2017, 6:37 pm
Forum: Grammar Questions
Topic: Clarification on "affected" and "unaffected" meanings
Replies: 5
Views: 1199

Re: Clarification on "affected" and "unaffected" meanings

Sorry, I thought the terms were more common than they apparently are. I've seen them in several places before, but the two recent examples come to mind. The first is from a page that says, ". . . the unaffected meaning of the accusative case is more general than any other case." The second is from a...

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