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by RandallButh
March 6th, 2019, 7:50 am
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο
Replies: 32
Views: 1715

Re: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο

@RandallButh reading "between the lines", so to speak, of your posts, and the mention of the Hebraic idiom in the GoL (and not Acts), would you therefore be thinking that the instances in the GoL of the Hebraic idiom and not in Acts are not because Luke was attempting to "mimic Septuagint style" (y...
by RandallButh
March 1st, 2019, 6:23 am
Forum: Other
Topic: Seasoned Greek Prof potentially available for employment
Replies: 6
Views: 358

Re: Seasoned Greek Prof potentially available for employment

Randy, I wish you the best (περὶ πάντων εὔχομαί σε εὑοδοῦσθαι) and recognize the tight spot vis-a-vis age and market openings. I wish I could offer something, but I would need to ask a question not yet commonplace in the market: How are your lecturing skills in Greek? I share this for younger schola...
by RandallButh
February 26th, 2019, 3:44 pm
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο
Replies: 32
Views: 1715

Re: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο

The problem is that we are not getting to point two. What evidence would support the claim that indefinite subjectless ἐγένετο clauses were being created by Luke to mimic LXX style? What evidence would counter such view points? This isn't so hard, but people will only understand if they think throu...
by RandallButh
February 26th, 2019, 2:00 am
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο
Replies: 32
Views: 1715

Re: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο

The problem is that we are not getting to point two. What evidence would support the claim that indefinite subjectless ἐγένετο clauses were being created by Luke to mimic LXX style? What evidence would counter such view points? This isn't so hard, but people will only understand if they think throug...
by RandallButh
February 22nd, 2019, 3:33 pm
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο
Replies: 32
Views: 1715

Re: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο

And surely the extension from one impersonal verb to another in such narrative contexts is quite simple and highly analogical. We can agree on that, can't we? Ναί, συμφωνῶμεν. The problem is that we are not getting to point two. What evidence would support the claim that indefinite subjectless ἐγέν...
by RandallButh
February 22nd, 2019, 7:30 am
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο
Replies: 32
Views: 1715

Re: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο

Let's skip point 1 since it was intended to point out the lack of existence and has a ready answer: it was not normally used in classical dialects. Instead a more fruitful line, even eye-opening, may develop if people try to answer point two. The assumption questioned in point two gets much too muc...
by RandallButh
February 21st, 2019, 2:01 am
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο
Replies: 32
Views: 1715

Re: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο

Thank you for the clarification. It appears that application of his data in this forum has been extrapolated beyond the source(s). which Siebenthal considers good standard ancient Greek: ἐγένετο . . . That turned the thread into a direction not claimed by Siebenthal. However, the bigger question for...
by RandallButh
February 18th, 2019, 1:21 am
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο
Replies: 32
Views: 1715

Re: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο

He then cites NT texts for ἐγένετο and Herodotus for συνέβη.
Good quote showing a hilarious/classic example of circular reasoning:
"If "A" is a standard structure in Greek outside the NT, we would prove this by quoting NT examples."
by RandallButh
February 16th, 2019, 5:15 am
Forum: Pragmatics and Discourse
Topic: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο
Replies: 32
Views: 1715

Re: Infinitive Subjects of ἐγένετο

> But I am looking at this form, which Siebenthal considers good standard ancient Greek: ἐγένετο + Adverbial + καί (optional) + infinitive clause Still, Luke may well be using the more standard ancient Greek form to echo the LXX. two points: 1. Where are the examples of standard Greek? 2. I hear th...
by RandallButh
February 14th, 2019, 11:01 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Minimal Pairs for Greek Phonology
Replies: 19
Views: 3469

Re: Minimal Pairs for Greek Phonology

Just to clarify, by "modern oriental pronunciation" you mean Sephardic (Israeli)? Partially. Sort of. Most Europeans and NorthAmericans use a 5-vowel "Sefardi" pronunciation, but without ʕayin and ħet . The true oriental pronunciation includes those two consonants, a voiced pharyngeal fricative and...