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by RandallButh
September 6th, 2011, 2:38 am
Forum: Other
Topic: "Tools of the Trade"
Replies: 17
Views: 5611

Re: "Tools of the Trade"

George egrapse: One thing that stands out in Islam is that they do not approve of the use of translations. Would that we did the same in the Church. George, I can partially agree with you. But the better picture may be the synagogue, where source and translation have traditionally been held in tens...
by RandallButh
September 6th, 2011, 2:22 am
Forum: Introductions
Topic: Hello from Raleigh NC
Replies: 4
Views: 909

Re: Hello from Raleigh NC

Sorry about the presentation of all those paradigms as the entryway into the language. I must apologize for the Greek field. "They" have this tradition of using pedagogies that have been shown to not work and to ignore pedagogies that have been shown to work. Go figure! You might check out the 1000 ...
by RandallButh
September 2nd, 2011, 12:32 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12459

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

I appreciate Devenios' reply. People tend to read material in a language in their own dialect of that language. Presumably, that would mean that Josephus or Paul would read Plato in their 1st century dialect. In answer to Vasili's question, that is how I would read Plato, too. The only exception to ...
by RandallButh
September 1st, 2011, 8:20 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12459

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

"The Koine can be considered the minimal/simplest system that could carry the ancient language." Indeed, I can understand that; however, I am still hoping that we may be able sometime to commonly speak about "a system which could be considered the maximal/most comprehensive system, that can easily ...
by RandallButh
September 1st, 2011, 5:13 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12459

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

In effect what you mean is that you choose a system where you maximize distinctions based on orthography. Not only that, but a system which is also based on natural sounds; ... It is not (critically) important that the system should to be acurate historically, Linguists that have worked with 'Resto...
by RandallButh
August 31st, 2011, 4:31 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12459

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

I borrowed the term from the concept of 'majority text' related to NT manuscripts. It implies in that case the reading that occurs in a majority of the manuscripts, and I used it to suggest the idea of pronouncing letters/letter associations in such a way as to accomodate the majority of cases foun...
by RandallButh
August 29th, 2011, 12:02 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12459

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

I still find the term 'majority' opaque and hiding what the priniciples actually are. EI has been pronounced like 'I' for 2300+ years. Is it a majority? Before 403 the E was used for both [ε] and [ε:], is it a majority? Around 403BCE and for a generation or two, before the Attic vulgar dialect start...
by RandallButh
August 28th, 2011, 11:59 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12459

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

Hi, Randall and Vasile, Randall wrote: You want to read Shakespeare and you want to read Chaucer. They have radically different pronounciation systems. Which one should you use? Should you read Shakespeare with Chaucer, should you read Chaucer with Shakespeare? or should you concentrate on the one ...
by RandallButh
August 28th, 2011, 12:34 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12459

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

Hmm, Homer/Attic and/or NT/LXX To what may this be compared? You want to read Shakespeare and you want to read Chaucer. They have radically different pronounciation systems. Which one should you use? Should you read Shakespeare with Chaucer, should you read Chaucer with Shakespeare? or should you co...
by RandallButh
August 26th, 2011, 3:33 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12459

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

the answers/expanations are widely inconsistent with the characterizations.