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by RandallButh
August 31st, 2011, 4:31 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12882

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

I borrowed the term from the concept of 'majority text' related to NT manuscripts. It implies in that case the reading that occurs in a majority of the manuscripts, and I used it to suggest the idea of pronouncing letters/letter associations in such a way as to accomodate the majority of cases foun...
by RandallButh
August 29th, 2011, 12:02 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12882

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

I still find the term 'majority' opaque and hiding what the priniciples actually are. EI has been pronounced like 'I' for 2300+ years. Is it a majority? Before 403 the E was used for both [ε] and [ε:], is it a majority? Around 403BCE and for a generation or two, before the Attic vulgar dialect start...
by RandallButh
August 28th, 2011, 11:59 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12882

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

Hi, Randall and Vasile, Randall wrote: You want to read Shakespeare and you want to read Chaucer. They have radically different pronounciation systems. Which one should you use? Should you read Shakespeare with Chaucer, should you read Chaucer with Shakespeare? or should you concentrate on the one ...
by RandallButh
August 28th, 2011, 12:34 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12882

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

Hmm, Homer/Attic and/or NT/LXX To what may this be compared? You want to read Shakespeare and you want to read Chaucer. They have radically different pronounciation systems. Which one should you use? Should you read Shakespeare with Chaucer, should you read Chaucer with Shakespeare? or should you co...
by RandallButh
August 26th, 2011, 3:33 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12882

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

the answers/expanations are widely inconsistent with the characterizations.
by RandallButh
August 24th, 2011, 2:31 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: ἐγερῶ (John 2:19) and ἠγέρθη (John 2:22) --- Voices
Replies: 4
Views: 776

Re: ἐγερῶ (John 2:19) and ἠγέρθη (John 2:22) --- Voices

sccarlson wrote: cwconrad wrote:This is one verb of which the suggestion has been made that the active (ἐγείρω) and the middle (ἐγείρομαι) should be deemed two different verbs. One of the ideas I've been playing with is whether to lemmatize all verbs in the active and middle separately. Of course, ...
by RandallButh
August 23rd, 2011, 12:23 pm
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?
Replies: 31
Views: 12882

Re: Does pronunciation matter? If so, why?

Why then not go for a 'majority system' solution? So you use modern Greek? And if you don't, but follow a particular minority group, then why? Conformity to friends? More accurate? Close to modern? Close to period of interest? There is no living person to claim that such system would be not in full...
by RandallButh
August 6th, 2011, 3:40 pm
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Reading and Pronouncing Biblical Greek Authentically
Replies: 59
Views: 12849

Re: Reading and Pronouncing Biblical Greek Authentically

But for the record let me make my position absolutely clear: --Anyone who phonologically equates Epsilon with Iota at any time in Greek history is from the moon. --It is an established fact that Hta and Iota in pre-403 BC classical times were read alike (and anyone challenging that is also from the...
by RandallButh
August 6th, 2011, 12:02 pm
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Reading and Pronouncing Biblical Greek Authentically
Replies: 59
Views: 12849

Re: Reading and Pronouncing Biblical Greek Authentically

I don't have a problem with occasional examples of Hta with Iota. But I was talking about IOTA and E-PSILON. IOTA and Epsilon were never confused in Greek phonology, yet that is what Socrates was talking about. Thus, it appears that Socrates was talking about different dialectical forms of a word, n...
by RandallButh
August 5th, 2011, 10:42 pm
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Reading and Pronouncing Biblical Greek Authentically
Replies: 59
Views: 12849

Re: Reading and Pronouncing Biblical Greek Authentically

Thus, the equalization of ει, η, ι in classical Greek, regardless of numbers (or degree of consistency), is an established fact a linguist cannot ignore sorry, but it is not a fact that H was pronounced as I. the fact is that the ancients had two words IMERA and EMERA that meant the same thing. the...