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by RandallButh
June 8th, 2011, 1:56 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Staging a New Testament meal
Replies: 6
Views: 1910

Re: Staging a New Testament meal

In Mishna Kilayim 1:1-2 you will find a list of beans and other veggies. ... Egyptian bean, garden pea, chickpea-a [lathyrus sativus], chickpea-b [lathyrus cicera], white bean, φάσηλος kidneybean ... And remember that at Passover everyone sat 'reclined' and had four cups of wine. It was a celebratio...
by RandallButh
June 7th, 2011, 6:25 am
Forum: Pronunciation
Topic: Machen Erasmian: kinds of Erasmian and kinds of Restored
Replies: 6
Views: 3073

Machen Erasmian: kinds of Erasmian and kinds of Restored

SImilar words are often used with quite different reference. It might be helpful when discussing pronunciation to specify the 'kind' of whatever name one puts on a system. For example, some have referred to reconstructed Koine as 'restored' while others have referred to reconstructed 5c BCE Athenian...
by RandallButh
June 1st, 2011, 3:42 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: The Aspect of Historical Present 'Against the Grain'
Replies: 14
Views: 4919

Re: The Aspect of Historical Present 'Against the Grain'

PS: I was just looking at McKay "New Syntax of the Verb in NT Greek" and was surprised to find the following sentence in the paragraph on historical presents: p. 42: "Of course, all these presents are in place of normal imperfects." The opposite is true if one is assuming that the aspect was being f...
by RandallButh
June 1st, 2011, 2:05 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Remoteness & Tense
Replies: 11
Views: 6317

Re: Remoteness & Tense

Also good points, though it is not 'hate' to say that 'aspect-only' is wrong, period. Aspect-only is also misleading, and distracting for students. The conclusions are not for convincing 'aspect-only' people but more for students who are confused about what aspect is. Yes, it would also be nice to h...
by RandallButh
May 31st, 2011, 5:20 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Remoteness & Tense
Replies: 11
Views: 6317

Re: Remoteness & Tense

Con has stated his agreement with this as the case. I doubt that it upsets him though... It should. And students should be aware that the historical present is one of the main 'hooks' to catch unsuspecting Greek students for 'aspect only'. They claim to 'falsify' tense and then bamboozle the unsusp...
by RandallButh
May 31st, 2011, 11:30 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Remoteness & Tense
Replies: 11
Views: 6317

Re: Remoteness & Tense

The 'otherside' needs to answer why they have a problem with 'e' marking 100% of imperfects as past, why the historical present could break its aspectual character without upsetting them (see other thread), why the future isn't used in the past, why the aorist isn't used in the future (or very very ...
by RandallButh
May 31st, 2011, 8:12 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Remoteness & Tense
Replies: 11
Views: 6317

Re: Remoteness & Tense

PS: Notes: * I find the term augment not particularly useful for description. Labeling it according to its function seems to me to be more useful: past tense prefix. The Greeks looked at its form and called it αὔξησις 'increase'. Since it's their language, they get to name things. But 'past-prefix' ...
by RandallButh
May 31st, 2011, 5:52 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Remoteness & Tense
Replies: 11
Views: 6317

Re: Remoteness & Tense

χαῖρε Μιχαηλ The post is on target. We can even add a number. 100% on target. >I find that idea that it [remoteness] has not [developed tense] highly dubious. Highly dubious. Ναί, δύσπιστον. βεβαίως. And in support--when the imperfect is functioning in an indicative (not irrealis) context, it is abo...
by RandallButh
May 13th, 2011, 3:43 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: The Aspect of Historical Present 'Against the Grain'
Replies: 14
Views: 4919

Re: The Aspect of Historical Present 'Against the Grain'

the division between semantics and pragmatics is not so clean cut (personally, I'm quite close to rejecting it in its entirety You can't 'reject' it. They are parameters, fields. That fact that pieces of language interact in both dimensions doesn't drop their usefulness or validity. Like tense-aspe...
by RandallButh
May 13th, 2011, 9:41 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: The Aspect of Historical Present 'Against the Grain'
Replies: 14
Views: 4919

Re: The Aspect of Historical Present 'Against the Grain'

grammatical irony is my own term as far as I know.

I thought it might help 'aspect-only' people see what they are missing and how they are skewing the Greek language into what it isn't.