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by Mike Burke Deactivated
September 7th, 2012, 11:56 pm
Forum: Vocabulary
Topic: Kai
Replies: 35
Views: 14239

Re: Kai

I think you meant to say that you have been told that "και" could be translated as "even" in those two places. Yes, sorry . I meant to ask whether "kai" could be taken in an explicative sense in those verses (i.e. the Holy Spirit cleasing like water , or purging like fire .)? However that is not re...
by Mike Burke Deactivated
September 7th, 2012, 7:36 pm
Forum: Vocabulary
Topic: Kai
Replies: 35
Views: 14239

Re: Kai

I've been told that "kai" could legitimately be translated "and" in John 3:5 and Matthew 3:11.

If that's true, why would it be true in those passages, and not in Rev. 14:9?

Is there any relevant difference in the grammar or sentence structure?
by Mike Burke Deactivated
June 9th, 2012, 8:36 pm
Forum: Vocabulary
Topic: Kai
Replies: 35
Views: 14239

Re: Kai

...In the case of Rev 14:6-9, the syntax indicates that it asserts all three statements to be true: "I saw [a] messenger ...", "another second messenger followed ..." and "another messenger, [a] third, followed them ...". Hope this helps! Thank you, but I'm more interested in the latter two occurre...
by Mike Burke Deactivated
June 9th, 2012, 1:38 pm
Forum: Vocabulary
Topic: Kai
Replies: 35
Views: 14239

Re: Kai

...In the case of Rev 14:6-9, the syntax indicates that it asserts all three statements to be true: "I saw [a] messenger ...", "another second messenger followed ..." and "another messenger, [a] third, followed them ...". Hope this helps! Thank you, but I'm more interested in the latter two occurre...
by Mike Burke Deactivated
June 8th, 2012, 2:44 pm
Forum: Vocabulary
Topic: Kai
Replies: 35
Views: 14239

Re: Kai

There's still something I don't understand here. If the Secret Service were given instructions (in English) that no one was to be allowed into a State Dinner without formal attire, an invitation, and a dinner companion, it would mean they didn't get in without all three. If the instructions were tha...
by Mike Burke Deactivated
June 7th, 2012, 11:15 pm
Forum: Vocabulary
Topic: Kai
Replies: 35
Views: 14239

Re: Kai

When Kai joins words or phrases together, it is simple enough and similar to English "and". When Kai joins clauses and sentences, it is more complicated. Kai can function like an English "then" as in Matt 4:19 (Follow me, and I will make you fishers of people). The English "and" can function the sa...
by Mike Burke Deactivated
August 3rd, 2011, 8:56 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: 1 Cor. 11:12 and Col. 1:16
Replies: 5
Views: 1042

Re: 1 Cor. 11:12 and Col. 1:16

...in a passage like Col. 1:16, is there any way to tell whether what follows τὰ πάντα is a subset of "all things,"" or a definition of the kinds of things in view? And in the case of 1 Cor. 11:12, would "all things" be limited by the context of the proceeding subjects (men and woman), or would men...
by Mike Burke Deactivated
July 11th, 2011, 12:09 pm
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Romans 4:17
Replies: 3
Views: 865

Re: Romans 4:17

I'm not sure how much Greek you know. Do the phrases τὰ μὴ ὄντα and ὡς ὄντα make sense to you?Jonathan Robie Posts: 341 Joined: May 5th, 2011, 5:34 pm Private message Not really. What does it mean? What I'd really like to know is if the text is saying that God calls non-existent things into being? ...
by Mike Burke Deactivated
July 11th, 2011, 1:39 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: Romans 4:17
Replies: 3
Views: 865

Romans 4:17

Romans 4:17 kaqwv gegraptai oti Patera pollwn eqnwn teqeika katenanti ou episteusen qeou tou zwopoiountov touv nekrouv kai kalountov ta mh onta wv onta;

Which is a better translation?

"God, who calls things that are not as though they were"--or "God, who calls things that are not into being"?
by Mike Burke Deactivated
July 11th, 2011, 12:46 am
Forum: What does this text mean?
Topic: 1 Cor. 11:12 and Col. 1:16
Replies: 5
Views: 1042

Re: 1 Cor. 11:12 and Col. 1:16

Thank you. I'm a novice here, I'm not familiar with unicode, and some of my questions will probably appear stupid. I apologize for that--but in a passage like Col. 1:16, is there any way to tell whether what follows τὰ πάντα is a subset of "all things,"" or a definition of the kinds of things in vie...

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