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by MAubrey
May 4th, 2012, 7:25 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: The Term Aktionsart
Replies: 40
Views: 17987

Re: The Term Aktionsart

A couple of thoughts: First we need to recognize a distinction between "verb" and "predicate." The former is a part-of-speech involving individual lexemes. The latter is a semantic entity that may or may not coincide with the former. All verbs are predicates, but not all predicat...
by MAubrey
April 29th, 2012, 8:33 pm
Forum: Seen on the Web
Topic: Bryn Mawr Classical Review: Historical Present
Replies: 2
Views: 1361

Bryn Mawr Classical Review: Historical Present

There's a review of a recent monograph on the historical present in Thucydides:

http://bmcr.brynmawr.edu/2012/2012-04-55.html
by MAubrey
April 22nd, 2012, 12:31 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Ban on μὴ ποίησον?
Replies: 9
Views: 3011

Re: Ban on μὴ ποίησον?

Here's Moulton's words directly: The distinction between present and aorist imperative has been drawn already, to some extent, in the discussion of prohibitions; for though the subjunctive has to be used in the aorist, it is difficult to question that for this purpose the two moods hardly differ—the...
by MAubrey
April 20th, 2012, 4:04 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Verbs of saying in the Imperative
Replies: 40
Views: 11188

Re: Verbs of saying in the Imperative

Mike, It seems to me that your views are much along the lines expressed by Baugh or am I wrong? I'm beginning to think that when I feel I understand what a linguist is saying that I've probably misunderstood him. :D A linguist's clarification/analysis is presented cryptically just like the nature o...
by MAubrey
April 19th, 2012, 1:29 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Verbs of saying in the Imperative
Replies: 40
Views: 11188

Re: Verbs of saying in the Imperative

Indeed the fact that modern Greek distinguishes between the present and aorist imperative does support your assumption. But why then does the actual usage in Koine Greek seem to vary according to each individual word, as though the frequency was a more important factor than distinction in meaning? ...
by MAubrey
April 16th, 2012, 11:35 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Verbs of saying in the Imperative
Replies: 40
Views: 11188

Re: Verbs of saying in the Imperative

Since you say that the frequency distribution of each individual verb affects its usage, I probably cannot disagree. But may I suggest that the existence of morphological structure is not always reflective of a current distinction in meaning? There may indeed have been some kind of distinction befo...
by MAubrey
April 16th, 2012, 12:26 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: Verbs of saying in the Imperative
Replies: 40
Views: 11188

Re: Verbs of saying in the Imperative

I would also be glad if anyone else could either confirm or reject my understanding of the imperative. Here are a few relevant examples that would need explanation: [Matt 3:3] "ουτος γαρ εστιν ο ρηθεις υπο ησαιου του προφητου λεγοντος φωνη βοωντος εν τη ερημω ετοιμασατε την οδον κυριου ευθειας...
by MAubrey
April 12th, 2012, 10:30 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: The Instantaneous Imperfect???
Replies: 25
Views: 10501

Re: The Instantaneous Imperfect???

I did read your post, and I am saying that the part I do not agree with is that Mark intentionally chose words to segment the discourse. Of course mentally both the writer and his audience always segment their communication, but I was saying that they did not have to use special words or word forms...
by MAubrey
April 12th, 2012, 3:48 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: The Instantaneous Imperfect???
Replies: 25
Views: 10501

Re: The Instantaneous Imperfect???

Never has anyone ever said that the this is a usage of imperfect verbs of speech. I thought you did? Nope. Never did. And neither Runge or Levinsohn hold that view either. Anyway I think you might not be getting my point. Your point, as I've read it, is that ἔλεγον isn't used to segment the text. T...
by MAubrey
April 11th, 2012, 12:08 pm
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: The Instantaneous Imperfect???
Replies: 25
Views: 10501

Re: The Instantaneous Imperfect???

Sure, the text is segmented, but Mark does not consistently use the imperfect only at these breaks. For example, can you explain Mark 2:23-26 which I quoted? ... If the places where direct discourse in a narrative text is segmented is only a subset of the places where the author uses the imperfect,...

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