No, a formal system does not underlie natural language.David Lim wrote:But as I said it depends on which formal system we think underlies natural language
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- August 10th, 2012, 12:11 am
- Forum: Syntax and Grammar
- Topic: Theoretical Nature of Prepositional Phrases
- Replies: 26
- Views: 11345
Re: Rom 5:15 ἐν χάριτι τῇ τοῦ ἕνὸς ἄνθρωπου
- August 6th, 2012, 10:52 am
- Forum: Seen on the Web
- Topic: Metalanguage, shmetalanguage
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3014
Re: Metalanguage, shmetalanguage
Your statement represents a fundamental misreading of my statement. I said "prescriptive", not "descriptive". *Sheepish look* But you don't know what prescriptive grammar is; it is nothing to do with social class, but rather it prescribes rules rather than describing the languag...
- August 5th, 2012, 10:47 pm
- Forum: Seen on the Web
- Topic: Metalanguage, shmetalanguage
- Replies: 6
- Views: 3014
Re: Metalanguage, shmetalanguage
ut we must still beware that sometimes "distilled rules" are incorrect! Has anyone not been taught that we should not begin a sentence with "And" or "But", or end a sentence with a preposition? And I would say that prescriptive grammar is something we should refer to b...
- July 19th, 2012, 10:50 pm
- Forum: New Testament
- Topic: Gal 1:11 γνωρίζω
- Replies: 12
- Views: 1807
Re: Gal 1:11 γνωρίζω
Difference in form. Difference in meaning.David Lim wrote:I had previously thought it was quite arbitrary.
- July 18th, 2012, 12:44 pm
- Forum: Grammar Questions
- Topic: temporal deixis in Acts 8:18
- Replies: 9
- Views: 3560
Re: temporal deixis in Acts 8:18
Jonathan, that doesn't exactly answer his question as to why δίδοται is a present. The participle may not be the main verb of the clause, but it is still the matrix verb for the complement in question: ὅτι διὰ τῆς ἐπιθέσεως τῶν χειρῶν τῶν ἀποστόλων δίδοται τὸ πνεῦμα So on to the actual question... I...
- July 16th, 2012, 6:32 pm
- Forum: Syntax and Grammar
- Topic: Query: Suppletion in the Present Stem
- Replies: 7
- Views: 2910
Re: Query: Suppletion in the Present Stem
Not that I'm aware of.Stephen Carlson wrote:Are there examples involving suppletion within a stem, for example, between the Present and Imperfect?
- July 12th, 2012, 6:30 pm
- Forum: Introductions
- Topic: Solomon Powell
- Replies: 5
- Views: 5094
Re: Solomon Powell
Hi Solomon,
We were at Moody together. Welcome. Where'd you do your certification?
GIAL? North Dakota?
Mike
We were at Moody together. Welcome. Where'd you do your certification?
GIAL? North Dakota?
Mike
- July 10th, 2012, 11:26 pm
- Forum: Syntax and Grammar
- Topic: Subjective and objective genitive
- Replies: 20
- Views: 17596
Re: Subjective and objective genitive
That's fine. But I wish you hadn't removed my original post. I was trying to say something relevant to the theoretical issue at hand.Stephen Carlson wrote:I split off the discussion of the genitive in 2 Km 18:5 into its own thread: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1348
- July 10th, 2012, 3:25 pm
- Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
- Topic: Subjective/Objective Genitive in 2 Kingdoms 18:5
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6236
Re: Subjective and objective genitive
You recognize that it's not a noun but a participle, right? I think that puts it in a different category; after all, none of the examples of genitives in this thread have been participles. Yes. That's exactly my point. I'm suggesting that participles are more useful for in Greek conveying subjectiv...
- July 10th, 2012, 2:44 pm
- Forum: Septuagint and Pseudepigrapha
- Topic: Subjective/Objective Genitive in 2 Kingdoms 18:5
- Replies: 20
- Views: 6236
Re: Subjective and objective genitive
That's a genitive absolute: When the king was commanding all his leaders about Absalom, all the people heard it. That's debatable, since ἀκουω can take genitive objects. Personally, I find it difficult to read the participle clause as an absolute when it is follow directly after a verb that has no ...