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by S Walch
May 8th, 2020, 1:44 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Luke 12:36 - Minuscule 157
Replies: 22
Views: 3155

Re: Luke 12:36 - Minuscule 157

Cheers Stirling. Lots to look through :) Perhaps the following from Aristotle ( Rhetoric 3.5) may be most relevant: καὶ διὰ τὸ ὅλως ἔλαττον εἶναι ἁμάρτημα διὰ τῶν γενῶν τοῦ πράγματος λέγουσιν οἱ μάντεις: τύχοι γὰρ ἄν τις μᾶλλον ἐν τοῖς ἀρτιασμοῖς ἄρτια ἢ περισσὰ εἰπὼν μᾶλλον ἢ πόσα ἔχει, καὶ τὸ ὅτι ...
by S Walch
May 7th, 2020, 5:21 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Luke 12:36 - Minuscule 157
Replies: 22
Views: 3155

Re: Luke 12:36 - Minuscule 157

There are numerous samples of τὸ πότε in the Church Fathers. Oh fantastic! Do they agree with my interpretation (if you have examples to hand, would love to read them), or am I way off the mark? BDAG, LSJ and BDF give no example (that I could find anyway), and didn't really search all that much fro...
by S Walch
May 7th, 2020, 4:09 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Luke 12:36 - Minuscule 157
Replies: 22
Views: 3155

Re: Luke 12:36 - Minuscule 157

I think the answer lies in BDF §266 and Basil L. Gildersleeve's Syntax of Classical Greek 575-6 , with the understanding "the [time] when", thus: And you, [be] like people who are waiting for their master, for [the time] when he returns from the wedding feast, so that after he comes and kn...
by S Walch
May 7th, 2020, 12:59 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Luke 12:36 - Minuscule 157
Replies: 22
Views: 3155

Re: Luke 12:36 - Minuscule 157

Colour image available at https://digi.vatlib.it/view/MSS_Urb.gr.2 - page 217r lines 7-11.
by S Walch
May 7th, 2020, 12:21 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Luke 12:36 - Minuscule 157
Replies: 22
Views: 3155

Re: Luke 12:36 - Minuscule 157

1. Possible, but unlikely, I think I think the dative would be necessary there to express time, so would expect τῷ. At that time I think -ει and -αι would be pronounced identically, so there's that, but it's harder to think of two errors here (though not impossible). It could be that το is an error...
by S Walch
May 7th, 2020, 9:57 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Luke 12:36 - Minuscule 157
Replies: 22
Views: 3155

Luke 12:36 - Minuscule 157

Traditional text of Luke 12:36: καὶ ὑμεῖς ὅμοιοι ἀνθρώποις προσδεχομένοις τὸν κύριον ἑαυτῶν πότε ἀναλύσῃ ἐκ τῶν γάμων, ἵνα ἐλθόντος καὶ κρούσαντος εὐθέως ἀνοίξωσιν αὐτῷ. Minuscule 157 has two variants here, reading (var. in bold): καὶ ὑμεῖς ὅμοιοι ἀνθρώποις προσδεχομένοις τὸν κύριον ἑαυτῶν, τὸ πότε ...
by S Walch
April 14th, 2020, 11:51 am
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Are "Yeshu" and "Yeshua" translated identically in Greek as "Jesus"?
Replies: 11
Views: 7363

Re: Are "Yeshu" and "Yeshua" translated identically in Greek as "Jesus"?

Thank you for the informative reply! Looks like I'm off to study declension. You were very helpful! (It's my first foray into Greek, yes. I've dabbled in Hebrew for some time now.) No trouble :) If you're not aware of it already, there is a b-hebrew forum where questions like this may get answered ...
by S Walch
April 13th, 2020, 6:16 pm
Forum: Beginners Forum
Topic: Are "Yeshu" and "Yeshua" translated identically in Greek as "Jesus"?
Replies: 11
Views: 7363

Re: Are "Yeshu" and "Yeshua" translated identically in Greek as "Jesus"?

There are three forms of Yeshua I would know to exist in Hebrew; Yehoshua, Yeshua, and Yeshu. I know that Yehoshua is translated in the Septuagint as Iesous, identical to Jesus in NT Koine. Would Yeshu have been translated the same way? The first thing is to learn the difference between translation...
by S Walch
April 13th, 2020, 3:17 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: Does Mark 13:14 sync best with the Hebrew or Greek of Daniel 9:27?
Replies: 2
Views: 5091

Re: Does Mark 13:14 sync best with the Hebrew or Greek of Daniel 9:27?

Well the only thing of relevance in Mark 13:14 is τὸ βδέλυγμα τῆς ἐρημώσεως: Ὅταν δὲ ἴδητε τὸ βδέλυγμα τῆς ἐρημώσεως ἑστηκότα ὅπου οὐ δεῖ, ὁ ἀναγινώσκων νοείτω, τότε οἱ ἐν τῇ Ἰουδαίᾳ φευγέτωσαν εἰς τὰ ὄρη As for whether τὸ βδέλυγμα τῆς ἐρημώσεως is better served from either the Hebrew or the LXX, it...
by S Walch
April 4th, 2020, 7:40 am
Forum: Syntax and Grammar
Topic: 2 Cor 1:3 articulation within a Granville-Sharp construction
Replies: 19
Views: 4547

Re: 2 Cor 1:3 articulation within a Granville-Sharp construction

Most G-S constructions don't have modifiers so these two are the clearest. There are possible counter-examples like Heb 3:1 τὸν άπόστολον καὶ άρχιερέα τῆς ὁμολογίας ἡμῶν Ἰησοῦν, but this could be a parsing issue. Is this because both substantives don't have modifiers, thus the only modifier in a G-...

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