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by RandallButh
September 26th, 2021, 3:35 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: ἔγειρε semantics and orthography--how would you parse this?
Replies: 23
Views: 10897

Re: ἔγειρε semantics and orthography--how would you parse this?

Thanks, Mike. I'll take 90%. For that matter, I'm only 90%. As mentioned, this needs manuscript follow-up. The phenomenon needs to be tracked so that we can know more precisely what speakers and hearers thought when they heard [IPA εjirε] in an intransitive/middle context. It is difficult to rule ou...
by RandallButh
September 25th, 2021, 10:41 am
Forum: Other
Topic: ἔγειρε semantics and orthography--how would you parse this?
Replies: 23
Views: 10897

Re: ἔγειρε semantics and orthography--how would you parse this?

Thanks.
A history of mss will be needed. The ἔγειραι that I listed is from the Accordance text of Stephanus' 1550.
by RandallButh
September 23rd, 2021, 6:35 pm
Forum: Other
Topic: ἔγειρε semantics and orthography--how would you parse this?
Replies: 23
Views: 10897

ἔγειρε semantics and orthography--how would you parse this?

There is a tricky question at the confluence of semantics, morpho-syntax, and phonology. Our Greek texts list many occurrences of ἔγειρε [pronounced έyirε, to use a non-tech greek-english notation] and typically treated as meaning 'get up!'. The typical parsing in a Greek program or lexical resource...
by RandallButh
September 23rd, 2021, 2:52 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Gospel of Mark as Classical and High Koine Greek
Replies: 13
Views: 6216

Re: Gospel of Mark as Classical and High Koine Greek

Yes, I am aware of Ong, and no, he does not control the detail in the articles mentioned above. Here is a little example of ignorance: "It is important to note, however, that Luke's three references to τῇ Ἑβραΐδι διαλέκτῳ (the Hebrew dialect) may not necessarily refer to the Hebrew language, bu...
by RandallButh
September 23rd, 2021, 2:27 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Gospel of Mark as Classical and High Koine Greek
Replies: 13
Views: 6216

Re: Gospel of Mark as Classical and High Koine Greek

Mattityahu--Ματθαίῳ, χαίρειν As a good place to start, you might want to work through a fairly long article published 2014, Brill, and available here: https://www.biblicallanguagecenter.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/9789004263406_08-Buth-Distinguishing.pdf Buth "Distinguishing Hebrew from Aram...
by RandallButh
September 23rd, 2021, 11:57 am
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Gospel of Mark as Classical and High Koine Greek
Replies: 13
Views: 6216

Re: Gospel of Mark as Classical and High Koine Greek

I'm a little late to the thread. Yes, Mark can be called sophisticated, as an author doing things with his style, but it is not a recognized Greek style, certainly not a classical style, as many have noted. The quotes from Eusebius and Origen would be nice to have for quick future reference. The con...
by RandallButh
September 21st, 2021, 12:08 pm
Forum: Greek Language and Linguistics
Topic: Omission of the copula
Replies: 23
Views: 9340

Re: Omission of the copula

I would appreciate seeing attestations of τί ἡμῖν καὶ σοί in non-Christian influenced, non-Jewish sources. I remember looking at this many a year ago but I don't have access to my books at the present. I seem to recall seeing something in classical sources, but in any case the likelihood of the phra...
by RandallButh
September 1st, 2021, 5:40 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Matt 1:2 article usage
Replies: 10
Views: 4142

Re: Matt 1:2 article usage

Yes. Certainly a Greek reading the LXX would sense something foreign. And the "gospel Greek" did not, and would not, read like Plutarch's Lives. But documenting discussion... It would be nice if someone could collect ancient comments, maybe including Aristeas on LXX and probably starting i...
by RandallButh
September 1st, 2021, 12:57 pm
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Matt 1:2 article usage
Replies: 10
Views: 4142

Re: Matt 1:2 article usage

It is fine to have two proposals, but they need to be checked for consistency. For example, it is fine for an unarthrous name to start something new, but it is against the grain of Greek to keep putting the article on the new information (more salient), the engendered sons in these cases. Middleton'...
by RandallButh
August 23rd, 2021, 10:07 am
Forum: New Testament
Topic: Luke 12:20: 3rd pl. pres. ind. act. of ἀπαιτέω
Replies: 39
Views: 12232

Re: Luke 12:20: 3rd pl. pres. ind. act. of ἀπαιτέω

The appreciation of Luke's Greek style is often based on the introduction to the Gospel in Luke 1:1-4, the intro to Acts 1:1-4, and Acts 15:36 to end. Throughout the Gospel Luke's sources had a profound effect on his style and lots of individual measurements show differences between the Gospel, Acts...

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