List of Articular Infinitives

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Re: List of Articular Infinitives

Post by Jonathan Robie » March 10th, 2015, 9:57 pm

OK, here's another strategy that adds some of the ones that were missed previously. Instead of trying to be smart in the query, I rely on the fact that the syntax tree already marks the head of each phrase, so if the head of a phrase is a word, we know we have found the match and don't have to look at lower levels.

You can see the results here:

http://ibiblio.org/bgreek/resources/que ... tives4.xml

This adds the following cases that were not found by the previous query:
  • Matthew 11:01 : διδάσκειν
  • Acts 04:18 : φθέγγεσθαι
  • Acts 05:31 : δοῦναι
  • 1 Thessalonians 03:02 : στηρίξαι
  • 1 Thessalonians 04:06 : ὑπερβαίνειν
  • 2 Thessalonians 02:02 : σαλευθῆναι
I think Acts 4:18 is incorrect, and indicates a bug in the parsing. I added an issue for that:

https://github.com/biblicalhumanities/g ... t/issues/9

Here's the function that searches for infinitives within a phrase:

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declare function local:infinitives($wg as element(wg))
{
  let $headword := $wg/w[@head='true']
  return
    if ($headword)
    then $headword[@mood='infinitive']
    else
      $wg / wg !  local:infinitives(.)
};
As you can see, the function now leans on the intelligence of the markup, and does not try to be so smart.

There's at least one case that this does not handle as well as it could: parallel infinitives joined with και in which both are modified by the article. Here's one example:
Matthew 11:01 wrote:τοῦ διδάσκειν καὶ κηρύσσειν ἐν ταῖς πόλεσιν αὐτῶν .
I think both διδάσκειν and κηρύσσειν should be considered articular infinitives here, but a phrase has, at most, one head. Another good example:
Matthew 20:19 wrote:τὸ ἐμπαῖξαι καὶ μαστιγῶσαι καὶ σταυρῶσαι
Ironically, we do better for more complex constructs like this one because we are smarter about word groups than infinitives joined with και:
Mark 05:04 wrote:τὸ αὐτὸν πολλάκις πέδαις καὶ ἁλύσεσι δεδέσθαι καὶ διεσπάσθαι ὑπ’ αὐτοῦ τὰς ἁλύσεις καὶ τὰς πέδας συντετρῖφθαι ,
I could add a special case for [infinitive] και [infinitive], would that be a good idea? Or is there a more general rule that handles this case?

For what it's worth: the count is now 291. Add a handful from parallel infinitives joined with και, subtract at least one false positive, and I'm guessing we're at least in the ballpark. Or am I missing something?
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Re: List of Articular Infinitives

Post by Stephen Carlson » March 10th, 2015, 10:47 pm

The count is 323, I believe.
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Re: List of Articular Infinitives

Post by Jonathan Robie » March 11th, 2015, 8:27 am

Stephen Carlson wrote:The count is 323, I believe.
What's the best list to work from, Mike's? I need to identify the ones I am missing.

Update: Mike's list has 276, mine has 291 with one known false positive and known false negatives for the [inf] και [inf] pattern. The 323 seems to be 322, John Kendall has already furnished the list to work from here:

http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/vie ... 323#p18717

I gather that's the list to work from?
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Re: List of Articular Infinitives

Post by Stephen Carlson » March 11th, 2015, 4:35 pm

Jonathan Robie wrote:
Stephen Carlson wrote:The count is 323, I believe.
What's the best list to work from, Mike's? I need to identify the ones I am missing.

Update: Mike's list has 276, mine has 291 with one known false positive and known false negatives for the [inf] και [inf] pattern. The 323 seems to be 322, John Kendall has already furnished the list to work from here:

http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/vie ... 323#p18717

I gather that's the list to work from?
Yes, that's it.
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Re: List of Articular Infinitives

Post by Jonathan Robie » March 11th, 2015, 5:08 pm

OK, the first step is to format that list so that I can easily compare it to my query results and identify the difference each time, look at the structure of the tree for each of these verses, etc. How confident are you that all of these are valid examples?

He says he got this using Gramcord - is that a simple query in Gramcord?
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Re: List of Articular Infinitives

Post by Stephen Carlson » March 11th, 2015, 5:47 pm

Jonathan Robie wrote:OK, the first step is to format that list so that I can easily compare it to my query results and identify the difference each time, look at the structure of the tree for each of these verses, etc. How confident are you that all of these are valid examples?
It's a published dissertation. Probably the best and most careful part of the project, but mistakes that pass review are always possible. There are one or two cases where the parsing isn't clear, however, so that might affect the count.
Jonathan Robie wrote:He says he got this using Gramcord - is that a simple query in Gramcord?
I believe he over-generated and manually filtered. I think the goal of syntax tagging is to move beyond this approach. :)
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Re: List of Articular Infinitives

Post by Jonathan Robie » March 11th, 2015, 8:38 pm

Stephen Carlson wrote:
Jonathan Robie wrote:He says he got this using Gramcord - is that a simple query in Gramcord?
I believe he over-generated and manually filtered. I think the goal of syntax tagging is to move beyond this approach. :)
Unless Gramcord now has syntax trees, that has to be what he did.

And yes, that's the goal. Game on!
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Re: List of Articular Infinitives

Post by Jonathan Robie » March 12th, 2015, 1:06 pm

MAubrey wrote:I started working through Burk's lists back when I initially did the syntax search (last week?)...but too quickly got completely annoyed by the fact that he separates 'prepositional' from 'non-prepositional'. I don't have the free time right now to (1) go back and forth checking multiple lists or (2) merge them.
I just took his list and sorted them in reference order, marking (prepositional) for the ones he marked prepositional. Now I can easily see the differences between my results and his whenever I change the query by comparing them using a diff utility - that gives me an efficient way to track my progress.

Here is Burke's list:

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Matthew 02:13
Matthew 03:13
Matthew 05:28 (prepositional)
Matthew 06:01 (prepositional)
Matthew 06:08 (prepositional)
Matthew 11:01
Matthew 11:01
Matthew 13:03
Matthew 13:04 (prepositional)
Matthew 13:05 (prepositional)
Matthew 13:06 (prepositional)
Matthew 13:25 (prepositional)
Matthew 13:30 (prepositional)
Matthew 15:20
Matthew 20:19 (prepositional)
Matthew 20:19 (prepositional)
Matthew 20:19 (prepositional)
Matthew 20:23
Matthew 21:32
Matthew 23:05 (prepositional)
Matthew 24:12 (prepositional)
Matthew 24:45
Matthew 26:02 (prepositional)
Matthew 26:12 (prepositional)
Matthew 26:32 (prepositional)
Matthew 27:12 (prepositional)
Matthew 27:31 (prepositional)
Mark 01:14 (prepositional)
Mark 04:04 (prepositional)
Mark 04:05 (prepositional)
Mark 04:06 (prepositional)
Mark 05:04 (prepositional)
Mark 05:04 (prepositional)
Mark 05:04 (prepositional)
Mark 06:48 (prepositional)
Mark 09:10
Mark 10:40
Mark 12:33 
Mark 12:33 
Mark 13:22 (prepositional)
Mark 14:28 (prepositional)
Mark 14:55 (prepositional)
Mark 16:19 (prepositional)
Luke 01:08 (prepositional)
Luke 01:09
Luke 01:21 (prepositional)
Luke 01:57
Luke 01:73
Luke 01:77
Luke 01:79
Luke 02:04 (prepositional)
Luke 02:06
Luke 02:06 (prepositional)
Luke 02:21
Luke 02:21 (prepositional)
Luke 02:24
Luke 02:27
Luke 02:27 (prepositional)
Luke 02:43 (prepositional)
Luke 03:21 (prepositional)
Luke 04:10
Luke 04:42
Luke 05:01 (prepositional)
Luke 05:01 (prepositional)
Luke 05:07
Luke 05:12 (prepositional)
Luke 05:17 (prepositional)
Luke 06:48 (prepositional)
Luke 08:05
Luke 08:05 (prepositional)
Luke 08:06 (prepositional)
Luke 08:40 (prepositional)
Luke 08:42 (prepositional)
Luke 09:07 (prepositional)
Luke 09:18 (prepositional)
Luke 09:29 (prepositional)
Luke 09:33 (prepositional)
Luke 09:34 (prepositional)
Luke 09:36 (prepositional)
Luke 09:51
Luke 09:51 (prepositional)
Luke 10:19
Luke 10:35 (prepositional)
Luke 10:38 (prepositional)
Luke 11:01 (prepositional)
Luke 11:08 (prepositional)
Luke 11:27 (prepositional)
Luke 11:37 (prepositional)
Luke 12:05 (prepositional)
Luke 12:15 (prepositional)
Luke 12:42
Luke 14:01 (prepositional)
Luke 17:01
Luke 17:11 (prepositional)
Luke 17:14 (prepositional)
Luke 18:01 (prepositional)
Luke 18:05 (prepositional)
Luke 18:35 (prepositional)
Luke 19:11 (prepositional)
Luke 19:11 (prepositional)
Luke 19:15 (prepositional)
Luke 21:22
Luke 22:06
Luke 22:15 (prepositional)
Luke 22:20 (prepositional)
Luke 22:31
Luke 23:08 (prepositional)
Luke 24:04 (prepositional)
Luke 24:15 (prepositional)
Luke 24:15 (prepositional)
Luke 24:16
Luke 24:25
Luke 24:29
Luke 24:30 (prepositional)
Luke 24:45
Luke 24:51 (prepositional)
John 01:48 (prepositional)
John 02:24 (prepositional)
John 13:19 (prepositional)
John 17:05 (prepositional)
Acts 01:03 (prepositional)
Acts 02:01 (prepositional)
Acts 03:02
Acts 03:12
Acts 03:19 (prepositional)
Acts 03:26 (prepositional)
Acts 04:02 (prepositional)
Acts 04:02 (prepositional)
Acts 04:30 (prepositional)
Acts 04:30 (prepositional)
Acts 05:31
Acts 07:04 (prepositional)
Acts 07:19
Acts 07:19 (prepositional)
Acts 08:06 (prepositional)
Acts 08:06 (prepositional)
Acts 08:11 (prepositional)
Acts 08:40 (prepositional)
Acts 09:03 (prepositional)
Acts 09:15
Acts 10:25
Acts 10:41 (prepositional)
Acts 10:47
Acts 11:15 (prepositional)
Acts 12:20 (prepositional)
Acts 13:47
Acts 14:09
Acts 14:18
Acts 15:13 (prepositional)
Acts 15:20
Acts 18:02 (prepositional)
Acts 18:03 (prepositional)
Acts 18:10
Acts 19:01 (prepositional)
Acts 19:21 (prepositional)
Acts 20:01 (prepositional)
Acts 20:03
Acts 20:20
Acts 20:20
Acts 20:27
Acts 20:30
Acts 21:12
Acts 23:15
Acts 23:15 (prepositional)
Acts 23:20
Acts 25:11
Acts 26:18 
Acts 26:18 
Acts 27:01
Acts 27:04 (prepositional)
Acts 27:09 (prepositional)
Acts 27:20
Acts 28:18 (prepositional)
Romans 01:11 (prepositional)
Romans 01:20 (prepositional)
Romans 01:24
Romans 03:04 (prepositional)
Romans 03:26 (prepositional)
Romans 04:11 (prepositional)
Romans 04:11 (prepositional)
Romans 04:16 (prepositional)
Romans 04:18 (prepositional)
Romans 06:06
Romans 06:12 (prepositional)
Romans 07:03
Romans 07:04 (prepositional)
Romans 07:05 (prepositional)
Romans 07:18
Romans 07:18
Romans 08:12
Romans 08:29 (prepositional)
Romans 11:08
Romans 11:08
Romans 11:10
Romans 11:11 (prepositional)
Romans 12:02 (prepositional)
Romans 12:03 (prepositional)
Romans 13:08
Romans 14:13
Romans 14:21
Romans 14:21
Romans 15:08 (prepositional)
Romans 15:13 (prepositional)
Romans 15:13 (prepositional)
Romans 15:16 (prepositional)
Romans 15:22
Romans 15:23
1 Corinthians 07:26
1 Corinthians 08:10 (prepositional)
1 Corinthians 09:10
1 Corinthians 09:18 (prepositional)
1 Corinthians 10:06 (prepositional)
1 Corinthians 10:13
1 Corinthians 11:06
1 Corinthians 11:06
1 Corinthians 11:21 (prepositional)
1 Corinthians 11:22 (prepositional)
1 Corinthians 11:22 (prepositional)
1 Corinthians 11:25 (prepositional)
1 Corinthians 11:33 (prepositional)
1 Corinthians 14:39 
1 Corinthians 14:39 
1 Corinthians 16:04
2 Corinthian 03:13 (prepositional)
2 Corinthian 04:04 (prepositional)
2 Corinthian 07:12 (prepositional)
2 Corinthian 07:3 (prepositional)
2 Corinthian 07:3 (prepositional)
2 Corinthian 08:06 (prepositional)
2 Corinthian 08:11 (prepositional)
2 Corinthians 01:04 (prepositional)
2 Corinthians 01:08
2 Corinthians 02:01
2 Corinthians 02:13
2 Corinthians 07:11
2 Corinthians 08:10 
2 Corinthians 08:10 
2 Corinthians 08:11
2 Corinthians 08:11
2 Corinthians 08:11
2 Corinthians 09:01
2 Corinthians 10:02
Galatians 02:12 (prepositional)
Galatians 03:10
Galatians 03:17 (prepositional)
Galatians 03:23 (prepositional)
Galatians 04:18 (prepositional)
Ephesians 01:12 (prepositional)
Ephesians 01:18 (prepositional)
Ephesians 06:11 (prepositional)
Philippians 01:07 (prepositional)
Philippians 01:10 (prepositional)
Philippians 01:21 
Philippians 01:21 
Philippians 01:22
Philippians 01:23 (prepositional)
Philippians 01:23 (prepositional)
Philippians 01:24
Philippians 01:29
Philippians 01:29
Philippians 02:06
Philippians 02:13
Philippians 02:13
Philippians 03:10
Philippians 03:21
Philippians 04:10
1 Thessalonians 02:09 (prepositional)
1 Thessalonians 02:12 (prepositional)
1 Thessalonians 02:16 (prepositional)
1 Thessalonians 03:02 (prepositional)
1 Thessalonians 03:02 (prepositional)
1 Thessalonians 03:03 (prepositional)
1 Thessalonians 03:05 (prepositional)
1 Thessalonians 03:10 (prepositional)
1 Thessalonians 03:10 (prepositional)
1 Thessalonians 03:13 (prepositional)
1 Thessalonians 04:06
1 Thessalonians 04:06
1 Thessalonians 04:09 (prepositional)
2 Thessalonians 01:05 (prepositional)
2 Thessalonians 02:02 (prepositional)
2 Thessalonians 02:02 (prepositional)
2 Thessalonians 02:06 (prepositional)
2 Thessalonians 02:10 (prepositional)
2 Thessalonians 02:11 (prepositional)
2 Thessalonians 03:08 (prepositional)
2 Thessalonians 03:09 (prepositional)
Hebrews 02:08 (prepositional)
Hebrews 02:15
Hebrews 02:17 (prepositional)
Hebrews 03:12 (prepositional)
Hebrews 03:15 (prepositional)
Hebrews 05:12
Hebrews 07:23 (prepositional)
Hebrews 07:24 (prepositional)
Hebrews 07:25 (prepositional)
Hebrews 08:03 (prepositional)
Hebrews 08:13 (prepositional)
Hebrews 09:14 (prepositional)
Hebrews 09:28 (prepositional)
Hebrews 10:02 (prepositional)
Hebrews 10:07
Hebrews 10:09
Hebrews 10:15 (prepositional)
Hebrews 10:26 (prepositional)
Hebrews 10:31
Hebrews 11:03 (prepositional)
Hebrews 11:05
Hebrews 12:10 (prepositional)
Hebrews 13:21 (prepositional)
James 01:18 (prepositional)
James 01:19 (prepositional)
James 01:19 (prepositional)
James 03:03 (prepositional)
James 04:02 (prepositional)
James 04:15 (prepositional)
James 05:17
1 Peter 03:07 (prepositional)
1 Peter 03:10
1 Peter 04:02 (prepositional)
1 Peter 04:17
Revelation 12:07
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Re: List of Articular Infinitives

Post by Jonathan Robie » March 12th, 2015, 1:48 pm

The following are instances found in Burk's list but not in mine. I've flagged them with the following code:
  • * - the verse appears in Burk's list but not in mine
  • ** - the verse contains two or more instances, and the second instance occurs in Burk's list but not in mine
  • *** - the verse contains three or more instances, and the third instance occurs in Burk's list but not in mine

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Matthew 11:01 **
Matthew 20:19 (prepositional) **
Matthew 20:19 (prepositional) ***
Luke 02:04 (prepositional) *
Luke 02:06 (prepositional) **
Luke 05:12 (prepositional) *
Luke 09:18 (prepositional) *
Luke 11:01 (prepositional) *
Luke 11:08 (prepositional) *
Luke 19:11 (prepositional) **
Luke 24:15 (prepositional) **
Acts 13:47 *
Acts 18:03 (prepositional) *
Acts 19:01 (prepositional) *
Acts 19:21 (prepositional) *
Acts 27:04 (prepositional) *
Acts 28:18 (prepositional) *
Romans 01:20 (prepositional) *
Romans 03:26 (prepositional) *
Romans 04:11 (prepositional) **
Romans 04:16 (prepositional) *
Romans 04:18 (prepositional) *
Romans 07:03 *
Romans 07:04 (prepositional) *
Romans 08:29 (prepositional) *
1 Corinthians 07:26 *
1 Corinthians 10:06 (prepositional) *
1 Corinthians 11:06 **
1 Corinthians 11:22 (prepositional) **
2 Corinthians 07:03 (prepositional) **
Philippians 01:23 (prepositional) **
Philippians 02:06 *
Philippians 04:10 *
1 Thessalonians 03:03 (prepositional) *
1 Thessalonians 04:06 **
2 Thessalonians 02:02 (prepositional) **
James 01:18 (prepositional) *
My query finds these, which aren't in Burk's list - each one looks like a potential problem in the syntax tree rather than the query, I will raise issues for the ones that have not already been reported:
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Re: List of Articular Infinitives

Post by Jonathan Robie » March 13th, 2015, 6:53 am

So far, most of the remaining cases involve:

1. Simple infinitives joined with και, because only one is the head of its phrase
(I am listing representative cases, not a complete list.):
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    [ τοῦ [ *διδάσκειν καὶ κηρύσσειν ] ]
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    [ τὸ [ *ἐμπαῖξαι καὶ μαστιγῶσαι καὶ σταυρῶσαι],]
This could be handled either by changing the markup or changing the query.

2. Constructs using ἐν τῷ εἶναι, because εἶναι is not the head of its phrase:
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    [ ἐν [ τῷ [ εἶναι αὐτοὺς ἐκεῖ ] ] ]
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    [ ἐν [ τῷ [ εἶναι αὐτὸν [ ἐν [ μιᾷ [ τῶν πόλεων ] ] ] ] ]
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    [ ἐν [ τῷ [ [ εἶναι *προσευχόμενον, ] αὐτὸν [ ἐν [ τόπῳ τινὶ ] ] ] ] ]
This can probably be handled in the query, but I'm trying to figure out if it is an example of a more general case that should be handled, or if this is the case. I'm also thinking about whether there should be markup for periphrastics in the syntax tree.

3. Bugs in the syntax tree that should probably be fixed there

I don't yet know if there are other cases, there may be others. But I think I'm getting closer to understanding what we really mean by the term "articular infinitive" ...
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