Is the use of two articles and no conjunctive for two successive adjectives a reflection of Hebrew syntactic patterns?Apocalypse 2:12 wrote:Τάδε λέγει ὁ ἔχων τὴν ῥομφαίαν τὴν δίστομον τὴν ὀξεῖαν
Ap.2:12 τὴν ῥομφαίαν τὴν δίστομον τὴν ὀξεῖαν
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Ap.2:12 τὴν ῥομφαίαν τὴν δίστομον τὴν ὀξεῖαν
Γελᾷ δ' ὁ μωρός, κἄν τι μὴ γέλοιον ᾖ
(Menander, Γνῶμαι μονόστιχοι 108)
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Re: Ap.2:12 τὴν ῥομφαίαν τὴν δίστομον τὴν ὀξεῖαν
This occurs more often in the Revelation than in other books. I also found it in John 18:16:
And three places in the Revelation:ὁ δὲ Πέτρος εἱστήκει πρὸς τῇ θύρᾳ ἔξω. ἐξῆλθεν οὖν ὁ μαθητὴς ὁ ἄλλος ὁ γνωστὸς τοῦ ἀρχιερέως καὶ εἶπεν τῇ θυρωρῷ καὶ εἰσήγαγεν τὸν Πέτρον.
καὶ ἀπὸ Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, ὁ μάρτυς ὁ πιστός, ὁ πρωτότοκος τῶν νεκρῶν καὶ ὁ ἄρχων τῶν βασιλέων τῆς γῆς.
Καὶ τῷ ἀγγέλῳ τῆς ἐν Περγάμῳ ἐκκλησίας γράψον· Τάδε λέγει ὁ ἔχων τὴν ῥομφαίαν τὴν δίστομον τὴν ὀξεῖαν·
Is there anything that marks this as particularly Hebrew?ὁ ἀστὴρ ὁ λαμπρός, ὁ πρωϊνός.
ἐξίσταντο δὲ πάντες καὶ διηποροῦντο, ἄλλος πρὸς ἄλλον λέγοντες, τί θέλει τοῦτο εἶναι;
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Re: Ap.2:12 τὴν ῥομφαίαν τὴν δίστομον τὴν ὀξεῖαν
Assuming that the addition of a genitive phrases in the Jn.18:16 and Ap.1:5 examples makes those articular adjectives clearly substantive, ie that they are in aposition following the rules of successive substantives, then only two examples remain of the type described.Jonathan Robie wrote: ↑July 26th, 2017, 5:41 pm This occurs more often in the Revelation than in other books. I also found it in John 18:16:
And three places in the Revelation:ὁ δὲ Πέτρος εἱστήκει πρὸς τῇ θύρᾳ ἔξω. ἐξῆλθεν οὖν ὁ μαθητὴς ὁ ἄλλος ὁ γνωστὸς τοῦ ἀρχιερέως καὶ εἶπεν τῇ θυρωρῷ καὶ εἰσήγαγεν τὸν Πέτρον.
καὶ ἀπὸ Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ, ὁ μάρτυς ὁ πιστός, ὁ πρωτότοκος τῶν νεκρῶν καὶ ὁ ἄρχων τῶν βασιλέων τῆς γῆς.Καὶ τῷ ἀγγέλῳ τῆς ἐν Περγάμῳ ἐκκλησίας γράψον· Τάδε λέγει ὁ ἔχων τὴν ῥομφαίαν τὴν δίστομον τὴν ὀξεῖαν·ὁ ἀστὴρ ὁ λαμπρός, ὁ πρωϊνός.
Hebrew (L1) interference seems like a more likely reason for going outside the normal limitation of one adjective in a construction like this, rather than appealing to the 5th/4th century Andocides. On the whole the Koine has a simplified set of articular syntactic structures, and a form of complexity like this appearing in the Apocalypse is more logically a new development.Jonathan Robie wrote: ↑July 26th, 2017, 5:41 pmIs there anything that marks this as particularly Hebrew?
Γελᾷ δ' ὁ μωρός, κἄν τι μὴ γέλοιον ᾖ
(Menander, Γνῶμαι μονόστιχοι 108)
(Menander, Γνῶμαι μονόστιχοι 108)