My questions are;
- Does one refer to burial in a tomb and the other to burial in the earth?
- Is one the preparation and the other the putting in the tomb or grave?
I'd think the place to start on something like this is Louw & Nida, specifically §52 "Funerals and Burial".συνεκόμισαν δὲ τὸν Στέφανον ἄνδρες εὐλαβεῖς καὶ ἐποίησαν κοπετὸν μέγαν ἐπ᾿ αὐτῷ.
Sorry about that, Stephen, I didn't want to put people off from discussing the topic by saying too many of my ideas up front. I hoped that people could share their own experiences with the words and their own reaction and feelings about them. But anyway, thank you for asking to know mine.Stephen Carlson wrote:Cite? Text?
as in Genesis 50:26, Numbers 20:10, et passim. I take those two variations as one variable phrase, because ἀπέθανεν and ἐτελεύτησεν close synonyms.Acts 2:29 wrote:ἐτελεύτησεν καὶ ἐτάφη
Questioning Louw & Nida is what led me to ask this question. From their meanings, "Prepare for burial" and "bury", it seems that they took the two words as being in a lexical chain - part of a sequence of things that happen. I think that because ἐνταφιάζειν and θάπτειν never occur together, it may be that they do not form a lexical chain. It may also be that they differ in terms of usage - that is to say what language you use about which topic, with whom and where. This is the other one of my theoretical bases I think is useful to use when discussing these two words.cwconrad wrote:I'd think the place to start on something like this is Louw & Nida, specifically §52 "Funerals and Burial".
In this case, I think that ἐνταφιάζειν is used to describe the whole process that was customarily gone through when someone dies, and θάπτειν is used to descibe it succinctly. There are some details of the process described in the two passages that it is used in:[b]Usage[/b] pg. 14 of the same book, [i][url=https://www.press.umich.edu/pdf/0472030299-intro.pdf]An Introduction to Second Language Vocabulary[/url][/i] wrote:Knowing a word also means knowing when it is appropriate to use that word instead of a synonym or similar word. This information about usage can include both syntactic information (e.g., we hardly ever use this verb in the passive voice) and pragmatic information (e.g., we do not use this word when speaking to people of higher status).
andMatthew 26:12 wrote:Βαλοῦσα γὰρ αὕτη τὸ μύρον τοῦτο ἐπὶ τοῦ σώματός μου, πρὸς τὸ ἐνταφιάσαι με ἐποίησεν.
She herself placing this fragrant oil upon my body, has done it to me as part of what is dictated by custom for my burial (= not as an extravigance in life)
Perhaps if John had a wider vocabulary, he may have used ἐντάφιον instead of ὀθόνιον "bandages".John 19:40 wrote:Ἔλαβον οὖν τὸ σῶμα τοῦ Ἰησοῦ, καὶ ἔδησαν αὐτὸ ἐν ὀθονίοις μετὰ τῶν ἀρωμάτων, καθὼς ἔθος ἐστὶν τοῖς Ἰουδαίοις ἐνταφιάζειν.
I took the body of Jesus, and they wrapped it in a large amount of cloth with pungent spices, strictly following the whole burial custom followed by the Jews.
It's just that you were talking about "Stephen's body" out of the blue.Stephen Hughes wrote:Sorry about that, Stephen, I didn't want to put people off from discussing the topic by saying too many of my ideas up front. I hoped that people could share their own experiences with the words and their own reaction and feelings about them. But anyway, thank you for asking to know mine.Stephen Carlson wrote:Cite? Text?
I see. Rather than me giving my thinking behind asking that question here in this thread, let's discuss it in a different thread; συγκομίζειν bring together, together bring, took home, help to bury, help to cremate, consider to have lived a good life.Stephen Carlson wrote:It's just that you were talking about "Stephen's body" out of the blue.